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Unread 04-29-2008, 05:41 AM
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Did this project ever get off the ground?

I have a remington model 7 CDL in .223 that I plan on barreling in 6x45 and I'd like to hear some peoples experiences with it

I plan to use the 65gr Vmax for varmints, 87gr Hornady HPBT for big game and potentially the 95gr SMK or BVLD for maybe a bit of LR paper punching/gong bonging
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Unread 04-29-2008, 10:02 AM
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I never realy loked at this post i guess , but Kirby the 6mm-223 is a perfect round for what you want. I have two one in an AR and another in Encore.

You can push the 55gr 6mm Ballistic tips a good bit faster out of this than the regular 223 can push the 55gr 22cal Ballistic tips and the BC on the 6mm is higher.
Another great benifit is the barrel life , the bore to powder ration on the 6mm-223 is a good bit better than the 308 so you can possibly get well over 4000 rounds through it.
One more great thing is that the higher bore to powder ratio makes the round ALOT more effecient and you can likely get all the speed you need out of a 20"-22" barrel and a barrel that short is gonna be stiff and as we all know that aids in accuracy.

Feel free to e-mail me if you want any load data
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Unread 04-29-2008, 06:28 PM
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.223 AI, 8 twist 22" barrel. You can fireform all day with Winchester White box or standard .223 loads. 40-50g pills to 450 yds. 75 Amax beyond. Proven combo that feeds reliably.
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Unread 04-29-2008, 11:32 PM
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Looks like you have a lot to think about with all the post so
I will just add to the choices.

I have built a few rifles in 243 WSSM and have been very impressed
with there performance. (NOT JUST VELOCITY) .

I like the 223 but hate loading because of the small rifle primers and
small cases (big Hands).

The WSSM's use large rifle primers and can be loaded to over 4000ft/sec
but can also be loaded down to 3300ft/sec with 55 & 70gr bullets increasing
barrel life.

Brass is about $23.00 for 50 and can be reloaded many many times at reduced
pressures because of the high pressure design of the case.

With a range of bullets from 55 to 115gr and a velocity range of 3300 to 4100ft/sec
this would be a very versatile round and it looks cool to.

Just a thought

Last edited by J E Custom; 05-01-2008 at 11:11 AM.
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Unread 04-30-2008, 07:33 AM
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I know this has been covered and rejected, but I would love to have a 6.8 spc necked to 6mm. Silverstate armory is making lots of quality brass that is reasonably priced, and I really dont think that the 6.8 will go away anytime soon. There are simply too many ar's out there, and if you look over on, you will see that it has taken on a nice following. I know I love mine. easy to load for.

6mm-6.8spc has already had some decent development, and would allow the use readily available inexpensive magazines. the only problem I see is the need to wade through the clutter to find the in formation.

That being said, I like your hornet idea too. Seems less blah than 6-223. ymmv
Bullets have well documented performance specifications.

Min Velocity info is available, and describes the performance floor of the bullet... DON'T allow yourself to reference F.P.E. as an accurate descriptor of killing power.. You are smarter than a copy editor, and you understand that you can determine maximum (reliable) effective range by comparing your drop chart to published bullet data....... And, dog-on-it, people like you!
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Unread 04-30-2008, 05:53 PM
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A .243 with 70 grain hollow points would work just fine. You could also keep a few 105 grainers in your pocket if you get a chance at a deer.
God made the earth, Mauser drew the boundaries.
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Unread 04-30-2008, 06:41 PM
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Just in case you wanna extend the range a little.

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