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They are deadly to a bit over 1400 yds but are falling like a brick.

Noslers of any ilk shoot lights out in the 3 grove 8 twist Lilja 270 AM. Hornady 140 BTSPs do also.

Berger 150s began to be erratic above 3200 or so. As do/did WC 195s. Three shot, 200 yd groups were always banana shaped and greater than 1.5 MOA or so.
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To make their claim of opening at 1300 fps they would have to use a softer lead alloy because a standard Accubond won't open at that speed, the point is smaller than the standard Accubond so the ALR would really have to be much softer up front to get it to open at such a low velocity.
Not nessesarily, could be that the tip has been redesigned to offer more of a wedging effect to force open expansion at lower velocity, or they may have a thinner tapered jacket at the meplat.
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They are deadly to a bit over 1400 yds but are falling like a brick.

Noslers of any ilk shoot lights out in the 3 grove 8 twist Lilja 270 AM. Hornady 140 BTSPs do also.

Berger 150s began to be erratic above 3200 or so. As do/did WC 195s. Three shot, 200 yd groups were always banana shaped and greater than 1.5 MOA or so.
That's because the bergers and old WC195 were both made on J-4 jackets and the 3 groove barrels, turns out are pretty darn hard on thin jacketed bullets, especially long one driven to high velocities.
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That's because the bergers and old WC195 were both made on J-4 jackets and the 3 groove barrels, turns out are pretty darn hard on thin jacketed bullets, especially long one driven to high velocities.
Plus 1, this has been the recipe for bullets coming apart on impact of game in some smaller high velocity calibers, in more than one instance. I feel a fast twist rate will aggravate the problem even more.

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They are deadly to a bit over 1400 yds but are falling like a brick.

Noslers of any ilk shoot lights out in the 3 grove 8 twist Lilja 270 AM. Hornady 140 BTSPs do also.

Berger 150s began to be erratic above 3200 or so. As do/did WC 195s. Three shot, 200 yd groups were always banana shaped and greater than 1.5 MOA or so.
However, these Noslers are of a new ilk. They are advertised to expand down to 1300 fps and ya gotta wonder how they designed the bullet to do that? Did they go too far?

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Not nessesarily, could be that the tip has been redesigned to offer more of a wedging effect to force open expansion at lower velocity, or they may have a thinner tapered jacket at the meplat.
According to these pics, the tip is no different than other Nosler tips... but, there is a hollow cavity below the tip. The jacket is also tapered different. IME, the jacket must be thinner toward the tip end of the ogive and/or the lead alloy core softer than their other bullets. Did they make the nose too soft?

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