I understand. Especially in the normal hunting weight bullets, it is hard to get something to be accurate and reliable. That was why I had high hopes for the 265/338.
In my experience, all versions of the x have killed very well. I have only one first hand report of an x-bullet "failure," which was a 168/.308 from a friend's 300 wsm. It blew up on a broadside shot in a five pt bull elk at 100 yards. Elk died, but did not bleed out externally at all. Friend had to track him several hundred yards, relying on snow, not blood. I have a 300 ultra that has killed three large bulls (not all by me) with the 180 ttsx, with very impressive results. Two of the bulls were at 640 yards (I shot one, then my dad laid down behind my rifle and killed another that walked up to see why his buddy went down). One bullet in my bull was perfect mushoom that stopped against a heavy bone on far side, other bullets were pass through. The third bull was a 300 yard pass through, one shot kill.
I am not sold on accubond. I admit I have only killed one animal with it, but was not pleased. Shot a 140/7mm out of a 280 AI. Started at 3000 fps, so probably hit bull at 2900 fps. In the lungs, no bone hit. Elk stood there as if not hit, took two steps, and laid down. Died right there, but if he had run, there would have been nothing to track. I had similar problem with the berger 190 vld out of my 300 ultra. Bullet blew up in a bull, but that was at over 450 yards, so it was slowed way down. Also, I can get them to shoot well out to about 500 yards, but they seem to go off kilter after that. Don't know why. I just cannot hold groups with them at long range.
I have since switched to the 210 berger vld out of my carry rifle in 300 ultra. It killed my bull and a friend's this year, one at 505, the other at 460, both one shot kills, with complete pass through shots. Bergers are the most accurate bullet I have used in any 30 caliber rifle, too. Now I get the same accuracy as the 190, but excellent performance, by using the 210.
Location: Ewardsburg, Michigan and Port Elizabeth, South Africa
Re: New Barnes bullet testing.....
Resurrecting an ancient thread, I know, but I came across this and it needs attention.
I find that .638 for the GS 177 hard to believe but since they wont ever return emails or proccess orders, I cannot even try them to see for myself. It's too bad becuase it seems like even if .638 is too high, they probably have close to .58+ with a published expansion figure of 1500-1600 FPS. It would at least be nice to try them. I just ordered a 10x barrel just to run them but since they wont even accept may orders and emails I am about to just give up and cancel the order on the 10x barrel.
I would appreciate it if you could let me know what e-mail address you used to send to as well as the address that you sent from, so that I can figure out what happened here. GSC has no record of ever getting an order from you. How many emails and orders should we be looking for? I know it is a moot point now, but hopefully we can prevent this from happening again.