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Old 07-25-2011, 11:17 AM
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Re: Need help in finding brass for .221 Fireball

Thanks, Gary. If I do decide to go the .223 sizing route, would you suggest Norma or Lapua? Or does it make any real difference. Norma pre-drills the flash holes, machine their case heads, have close-tolerance wall thicknesses and pack the brass from the same lot. All for the amazing price of over $90/100.

I don't remember what Lapua offers, other than IIRC, they anneal their cases. Their price is considerably lower ($61/100, give or take).
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Old 07-25-2011, 11:35 AM
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Thanks, guys. Yes, Midway does offer it, and it happens to be on sale. I think I will just stick to the one-die method of forming the .20VT cases. I don't shoot competition any longer, and use this rifle merely for ground squirrels and coyotes, and the VT is extremely accurate for those purposes. I also use a .222 and .22-250 (both heavy BR rifles, so they are good mostly for static shooting...not walk-around). Fortunately upscale cases are offered by Lapua and Norma for the .222.
One thing you have to know forming cases from the 223/222 to the 20VT you will use part of the shoulder and case body to form the new necks so you may have to turn necks etc.

I was raised in SF and as a youth spend alot of time around Santa Rosa/Calistoga area and my Dad semi retired east of you @ Kenwood. After my Dad passed away Mom moved to Sonoma about a block from the Bakery and I think I gain around 50lbs. Well good luck
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Thanks, Gary. If I do decide to go the .223 sizing route, would you suggest Norma or Lapua? Or does it make any real difference. Norma pre-drills the flash holes, machine their case heads, have close-tolerance wall thicknesses and pack the brass from the same lot. All for the amazing price of over $90/100.

I don't remember what Lapua offers, other than IIRC, they anneal their cases. Their price is considerably lower ($61/100, give or take).
I honestly can't see any serious difference between the two brands other than money! I think that if I were to go that route, I'd practice with some range pick up stuff first. That way you will have you die setup pretty close right from the start. I would plan on a serious anneal after the cases are formed to within .010" in length.
I have been planning a project off of that case length, but using .222 mag brass or .204 stuff, and building a long necked .223Ackley with a .222AI Remington neck and shoulders and the longer body with a 1:8 barrel. Just looking for a donor barrel in .222
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Old 10-21-2011, 12:24 AM
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Re: Need help in finding brass for .221 Fireball

Check on gunbroker for 20vt brass made from lake city brass.
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Old 10-21-2011, 11:00 AM
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Re: Need help in finding brass for .221 Fireball

You may be able to buy 17 Remington Fireball shells and fire them in the 20 to form the cases. Might be the easiest way to get formed cases.
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Old 10-21-2011, 02:33 PM
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You may be able to buy 17 Remington Fireball shells and fire them in the 20 to form the cases. Might be the easiest way to get formed cases.
Wouldn't this more than likely split the necks and/or cause those nice little .17 bullets to do harm to a perfectly good barrel? What do the others feel about this suggestion?
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Old 10-22-2011, 12:18 PM
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You may be able to buy 17 Remington Fireball shells and fire them in the 20 to form the cases. Might be the easiest way to get formed cases.
don't do this.

The .221 fireball brass is fine. Just keep the 100 rounds together, I've seen some variation in weights from one box to another.

My .221 fireball lvsf is a real shooter, and performs well with 40gr Vmax at 3450 with lilgun. I'm sure the vartarg is just as good or even better....

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