Originally Posted by westcliffe01
To the OP, few manufacturers make true 1:9 barrels anymore. Current Remingtons are 9.125 and current Savage are 9.25.
Also note that 42gr of H4350 is listed as a maximum load in the Hodgdon reloading manual, don't start there...
If you stick to the 1.070 hunting 95gr VLD you will be fine since it is rated for a 1:10 barrel.
The 95gr target VLD's would not shoot out of my Savage 12 even at maximum load, but I am shooting them in winter conditions, its possible that in summer they would be fine. However, I have little use for a "summer" hunting load...
Also the entire concept of jamming VLD's is no longer up to date. It is recommended to shoot them with a jump today. There is a sticky on this, just don't have time to find it right now. Jamming bullets may be fine for competition, but can be hazardous for hunting if you end up pulling the pullet out the cartridge when unloading. Jamming them dies work, IF you have the proper seating dies that set the distance to the ogive. Regular seating dies are useless for this.
true on the twist rate most are not exactly 1:9 but Ive never seen on a box of berger needed exactly 1:9 or 1:9.25 ext. it is a reference. the only way to know is to shoot them.
42 grs is max and yes start about 39 or 40 and work up. simple things like which primer and even diff brass can raise or lower pressures. not to mention temps.
as for "jamming" I have not seen the sticky on this Deff would be interesting. But I do know from personal experiences with VLDs that they like to touch or be into the lands a little. They are about all I shoot if i can. Just for the BC factor. as far as i know they have not changed VLDs to want to jump. But have created the Hybrids. That are a cross between a competition and hunting bullet that are to SAMI specs. these do like to be jumped a little and are more likely to go into the mag.
Also for a bullet pulling out when jammed and than extracted. This usually will happen with a competition shooter that is neck sizing using a neck tension die. They set the tension to 1 to 3 thou bullet tension depending on what the gun likes. some times it could be too light and the barrel will pull the bullet from the cartage. It is not uncommon for them to seat with extremely light tension, leave the bullet seated several thou out, then when the bolt is closed it pushes the bullet back into the case and is seated the same with every bullet chambered instead of sorting the bullets by Ojive measurements.
But now we are getting way off the original Question and way into details for a hunting bullet. So the suggestion is to try some and see what your gun likes. VLDs , Noslers, and hornady interlocks are all good performers on Deer size game. If you not planning on shooting past 400 the higher bc's are not gonna matter all that much. youll still make a kill shot with a light hold off.
Good luck and hopefully we're not confusing with all the technicals...