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Old 12-19-2005, 01:20 PM
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Re: Need Advice: New Long Range Muzzleloader

Looks interesting but in Colorado smokeless powder muzzleloaders are ILLEGAL.. So I'm out.
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Old 12-19-2005, 02:47 PM
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Re: Need Advice: New Long Range Muzzleloader

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Looks interesting but in Colorado smokeless powder muzzleloaders are ILLEGAL.. So I'm out.

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Does anyone know if a lot of states have made them illegal?
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Old 12-19-2005, 03:12 PM
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Re: Need Advice: New Long Range Muzzleloader

I can shoot consistant 2" groups at 200 yards with a T/C 50 cal Black Mountain Magnum, a reworked stock so I have a good roll-over cheek rest (needed for scope) a Mueller 3x 10 X 44 scope using 120 grains 777, and a powerbelt 245 grain bullet. It is possible to shoot VERY long ranges with the proper loads with either roundballs or modern sabots. It takes CONSTANT practice at all ranges and shots out to 200 yards can be done consistently with roundballs and 1 in 66" twist rifle with long barrels. A lot of states (Florida included) are looking at the "Modern smokeless" powders as being prohibited, also in-line ignition, or "non-exposed primers" and not allowing them in the muzzleloader season. I would recommend buying the best percussion rifle you can get and putting a Green Mountain fast twist barrel on it and learning to shoot it at the longer distances, this will amaze you as far as accuracy goes, just go to any rendy shoot and see how far some of these firearms can shoot with a really good shooter. By the way, I took a 6 X 6 Royal Bull Elk at a measured 200 yards with a .52 caliber Sante Fe Hawken, patched roundball and 120 grains of FFG and that bull never went 10 yards! I can take my T/C and hunt any state I want to and all I have to do is remove the scope if needed! AS in ALL long range shooting, it's mostly the shooter NOT the gun!!
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Old 12-19-2005, 06:30 PM
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Re: Need Advice: New Long Range Muzzleloader

icon - if you would, e-mail me your telephone number. I should be able to save you a lot of time.

distantfoe@aol.com
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Old 12-19-2005, 09:30 PM
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I'll be through OKC on 12/26, stopping in Weatherford to visit an Aunt and then on the Cheyenne.

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Get off on exit 125 just west of OKC and drop by to see Lerch and I. We don't really have any cool custom guns but we've got a few rifles and every shotgun you can imagine!!
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Old 12-21-2005, 10:47 AM
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Re: Need Advice: New Long Range Muzzleloader

The Savage isn't bad either!

Some folks also have SMI or Pac Nor barrels put on different actions. Personally I have replaced my Savage barel with a Krieger 505 Gibbs. 1:20 twist for use with sabots. I also eliminated the barrel nut and went with a 1.250 barrel diameter. Fairly heavy but great for long range shooting.

edge.

PS for more Savage ML info:

http://dougva.proboards34.com/index.cgi?board=Savage
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Old 12-23-2005, 04:30 PM
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Re: Need Advice: New Long Range Muzzleloader

I'll agree with edge. Last week I killed 2 does at 285 and 410 yards using a savage shooting a hornady 250 gr. sst at 2475 f.p.s.. Using a target turret calibrated specifically for my gun I can range and shoot with a dead on hold out to 500 yards.I dont plan on shooting at a deer this far but it is fun to send one down range to the disbelief of onlookers. Thanks timbo
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