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My Springfield Armory M1A Blew Up!!

 
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Old 05-28-2002, 02:27 AM
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My Springfield Armory M1A Blew Up!!

First off I'm glad I'm alive right now. Still shaking for about an hour afterward I settled down and finished the shooting with the other guns. I did what we all know not to, and start with a higher end load, not working up slowly and it Damn near cost me my life. The load was 45.5gr H380 under a 180 Scirocco at 2.845". It blew the bottom off the bolt, blew the cartridge below it in half leaving only the back half of the case left, the front end with the bullet were gone. The 3rd and only other round in the mag was mangled. The mag follower was blown in half, the lower front corners of the mag were split down to the bottom with everything blown out the bottom. The synthetic stock split vertically completely through front and rear. At the front it ran about 6" forward and the rear it ran back into the grip and stopped. I'm glad it wasn't walnut. My Leopold survived as well as the actionand barrel were intact as was the upper visible area of the bolt and op rod.

The Oehler 43 measured 81,500 PSI. There was some interferrance and the "auto omit" feature was activated so it deleated the shot just afterward and automatically replaced it with another that was just some interferrance registering as a shot too. I'm not sure of the velocity of the shot, I just looked at the PSI because of what happened, but the PSI was indeed 81K, not what we would think could blow apart a bolt. I thought these things were at proof tested to at least twice their operating PSI, at over 100,000psi, I guess I was wrong.

I wonder if the action is still good after that PSI, if you could even get it open and off the case that's stuck in there.

Makes me wonder what the PSI in the starting load would have been.

No matter how pressures follow other book loads doesn't mean squat, so be carefull starting a little high to save time and bullets as I was. That was a $1400+ BIG mistake.
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Old 05-28-2002, 09:29 PM
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Re: My Springfield Armory M1A Blew Up!!

Look Brent I want to come to Alaska but not for a funeral alright [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img] It's no laughting matter but VERY VERY glad that you are still alive! So now can we work on that 50 Texan you mentioned a while back. Every once in awhile we all make mistakes I made one worst than you did. Needed an electric cord with the plug in so I got an old lamp put a bulb in it to make sure it worked after it came on I turned it off got out my pocket knife and proceeded to cut it. Knife was a little dull so I had to try looping the cord to cut it. After the blade came throught it and I got shocked I realized that it was still plugged in. We live to tell others so that they don't make the same mistake of being in a hurry. Take care and GOD SPEED.
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Old 05-28-2002, 11:05 PM
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Brent,
Really glad that you are OK. Guess that was one of those wake-up calls we get - if we are lucky.
"You only get one set of eyes..." comes to mind when I read about that rifle detonating.
Take care.
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Old 05-29-2002, 06:16 AM
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Brent

Glad you are OK after a close call.

I wanted to post earlier about 7828 powder which has NO bearing on what happened to you.
The 7828 will raise pressures FAST and just a little goes a long way. Watch out if you or anyone else tries it.

Just a tip;
For a bit of piece of mind, I always wear some type of protective glasses when I'm shooting any rifle and in any situation, hunting or target.

When loading and shooting any cartridge remember, we all are working with a bomb in that chamber and a lot of pressure is being exerted.
Everyone, please be careful. Load to the maximum slowly and when working with semi-auto rifles or older military mauser bolt actions, be especially careful.
Would hate to see anyone from our site (or any site) here get hurt in any way.

Glad to hear you didn't get hurt.

Darryl
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Old 06-02-2002, 12:36 PM
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Thanks all,
The load was in the Nosler book and was the most accurate powder and load for the 180gr. I figured none of the other book max loads were over an acceptable psi, so why would this one be. At the 81,000 psi it was, I wonder what psi the starting load will be in my bolt gun?

Not the right approach as were told time and time again.
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Old 06-05-2002, 01:23 AM
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Ok here's what happened. First off my trusted brother is who I got the opened can of H380 from. There's your first clue. I never used H380 before this, so when I saw it was stick powder I never new what was coming. That's your second clue. Yep you guessed it, H380 is ball powder not the damn stick powder that was in the can.

I'll never trust anybodys reloads or opened powder again, not even blood. I almost am not speaking to him over this. I have no idea what powder it is but it wasn't H380. I wright the name of the powder on a small piece of paper, throw it in the powder measurer on top then leave only that can setting beside the measurer and keep all other away on the shelf to avoid JUST THIS.
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Old 06-05-2002, 01:43 AM
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UV light affects stick (wax) based powders and air affects all ball powders. so dont leave them out when not using them.


also in alaska (for a while)
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