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Old 10-01-2004, 06:12 PM
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my reloads suck?!?!?!?

ive trying to get a load for my 30-06 for deer. shootin out of a 22 inch remington 7600.. im shooting hornardy sst 165gr.. i have worked up 2 loads using imr4064 and 2 loads with 4350.. none of the loads shoot good.. i can shoot a .75 group with factory ammo... i cant get under a 2 inch group with any of my loads... i load for my 22-250 and can put 5 rounds into .5moa .. so i dont think its my reloading ... whats the problem?
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Old 10-01-2004, 09:44 PM
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Re: my reloads suck?!?!?!?

The rifle you have is not noted for extreme accuracy!The rifle may be real finnecky and need a speciel loading to shoot real accurately.I'd try some different O.A.L in the gun.
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Old 10-01-2004, 11:10 PM
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Re: my reloads suck?!?!?!?

Lifes too short and it can get expensive to figure everything out.My 7mag and Sweede both like factory loads and nothing I have reloaded even comes close so heres my solutions.
#1 I dont shoot them that much anyway so I sold the reloading dies and baught factory ammo with the procedes(I've still got a box of each).
#2 I spend my time on the rounds that I shoot more(223,45lc)and that I can't buy facory ammo for(80 grain 22-250,6-284,375-50BMG).
You might try makeing sure they are full length resized and crimping the bullets in tight.
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Old 10-02-2004, 06:37 AM
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Re: my reloads suck?!?!?!?

Big Sal,
While it will be hard to firmly diagnose the exact problem, we can give suggestions for you to try. First thing I will say is keep an open mind.
Your rifle seems to be fairly accurate, .75" with factory fodder is good. The 7600/760 series that I have shot in the past have been fairly accurate also. The barrels on these are actually free-floated.
The first thing I would try is a slower powder. While IMR 4064 is a known good .30-06 powder, it just seems too fast (to me). IMR 4350 is also a good all-around powder and shoots well in alot of different calibers. I would try a little H4831 or RL22. I especially like RL22, it shoots extremely well in my .25-06/7mmRemMag and the 7mm/300 WSM and 300WinMags that I have reloaded for.
As for primers, I usually use CCI BR2's or Rem 9.5, 9.5M's. I've bought all the "others" before, but these "show me the money".
Some say the SST's aren't that accurate. I got good results (.451") for four shots with the 154gr in 7mmRM. You may want to give the same weight Ballistic Tips a try. They are relatively cheap considering the accuracy you can get from them. Think the .30cal/165gr is on sale at MidwayUSA right now for 9.99/50 ct.
Hope this tips help. Johnny K.
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Old 10-02-2004, 08:36 AM
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Re: my reloads suck?!?!?!?

Some guns just don't like "some" bullets. If you don't want to buy more 30 cal bullets see if you can get 10-15 of some other brands from a buddy. I've had great luck with plain jane hornady interlock flat bases. I had a 308 blr that was finicky and I was trying all sorts of upscale bullets. Then finally went to 150 grain interlocks and it really shot well. I've have seen lots of complaints on the 165sst for accuracy--but then again have seen some real success stories. 4350 many times is a real good powder for the rem auto's. I have a friend that I introduced to reloading and he used to get really beat up necks on his brass after ejection. He's now using 4350 and the problem has disappeared.
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Old 10-02-2004, 08:46 AM
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Re: my reloads suck?!?!?!?

BTW--stories like this make me snicker and think how finicky we get about reloading. How many posts do we see about how guys are panicing cause they got .003" runnout and they think it's the end of world. Then we see a couple of real world examples of great shooting factory ammo. "plain jane" bullets sitting in "rough mouthed" brass that has up to .007" runnout and the darn stuff shoots 3/4". To me it's just a good testimonial that barrel harmonics matched to the load the matched THAT GUN are the real basis for accuracy.
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Old 10-02-2004, 10:50 PM
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Re: my reloads suck?!?!?!?

Bigsal5353,
I agree with Johnny K try a slower powder,
but also try a different bullet like ballistic tip's,the worst groups I've ever
seen came from Interbond's the SST's brother.
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