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Unread 01-22-2010, 07:33 PM
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Re: More confused than ever

The 280 AI is the Ackley Imp version of the 280 Rem which is based off the 30-06 case. It's very close ballistically to the 7 RM and 7 WSM. At 6000' elevation you could probably deliver a fatal shot to 1K with a good shooter, a good rifle, good load and bullet put in the right place.
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    Coyboy I could not agree with you more! That is why I have waited three years to build a cold bore 1k rifle. Perfect practice makes perfect results. However the conditions in the feild will always dictate what type of shot I will have. I am not building a rifle to only take 1k shots. If it is the only shot I have and the conditions are right I feel comfortable taking that shot. I want the equipment to be able to make the shot as well

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    Darrin, if your dedicated to the game and are fully capable of growing into the sport then I have to agree with the others. Build a big 338 and you will not grow out of your gun.
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    Owning a 1000 yard gun dosen't make you a 1000 yard hunter, practice and skill is what wins the race. Good luck with your new rifle.
    That is a great statement, especially for new people (like me). Hearing that just because we have the equipment to do so does not make us all sniper grade marksmen, is a good thing.
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    No offense to the 338 guys, but a big 7mm (7mm RUM) pushing a 180 VLD (BC .659) @ 3300 fps will out run a big 338 pushing a 300 SMK (BC.76) @ 2900 fps. The 7mm will do better in windage, TOF and drop out to 1400-1500 yds. Not saying it is a better killer, but for killing deer and such, it's plenty good to where it goes below 1800 fps which is well past 1K @ sea level.

    If the quarry was elk, I would say go for the big 338, but if it's just deer and general shooting the big 7 MM for dedicated LR is the best choice IMHO. The 7mm RUM will out shoot the EDGE at long range (1400-1500)

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    Hey Mark,
    And then lets throw in the swampworks 180 jlk vld with a Bc of .735. And then we are comparing apples to apples and the 7mm wins. And I believe that the 7mm will take out elk upto 1k. Beyond is a different story! Thank you to all this is a great thread with great info, keep it comin!!

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    Darrin, I would be skeptical of the JLK listed BC. The JLK and Berger are almost identical shape and I cant see there being any significant dif in BC and I trust Bryan's BC more than any ohter listed. But they are both good bullets.
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