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Old 01-17-2010, 01:45 AM
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Jon, I agree that it has been a big learning process. I have learned a lot about cleaning in this process as well as over the past couple of years. It would be a lot less brutal proces with a quality custom bore for sure.

I felt the BTE on the rifle surfaces more than I saw it down the bore. it seemed to linger on my finger tips for days. BTE is a very good copper remover but not quite what I originally thought it was. It does start acting immediately, but when it gets down to the stuborn stuff you need to let it soak for a while. I have been able to use it to clean down to bare metal, but wiht a bad fouling bore it will take a few longer soakings of 30 min or more. I found the easiest (not necessarily the shortest) is to get most of the copper out with BTE and then soak a couple of times with Wipeout. BTE gets about 70-80% of the copper out very quickly, but the rest of the stuborn stuff is easier to get with Wipeout (or Gunslick foam cleaner which works about as well as Wipeout in my experience).
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Old 01-17-2010, 02:20 AM
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For anyone considering doing a GJ break-in, I recommend doing a "normal" one shot - one clean break-in first. This will accomplish a couple of things. It will polish or burnish the surface of the bore making it easier for the GJ to "seal" the steel surface of the bore on a molecular level. It will also making cleaning all copper and powder between each shot easier which can make removing all cleaning product residue easier. The steel surface must be free of any material that might prevent the GJ from impregnating its pores.

Use a bore cleaner that is both effective and easy to remove. Follow the directions, including shaking the GJ.

I would be very interested in hearing results from anyone else using this product.

Mark
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Old 01-17-2010, 09:36 AM
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I one of the outcasts who clean a bore to metal -after every trip to the range.
I do this to prevent all you're running into.
Now I use WS2, and pre-foul the clean bore with a dry burnishing before the gun goes back in the safe. My bullets are coated as well.

I use Speedy's cleaning method, but flush the bore to squeaky clean afterward with the best alcohol I can get.
I would think this would work for GJ as well.
You just have to get your bores where basic cleaning -works.

But I get the impression here that GJ is not suited for pre-fouling. You mention fouling -with a few shots. If it's leaving the bore wet, at all, it does not pre-foul.
It sounds like it reduces copper and extends accurate shot count though.

I think I'll stick with WS2. There is no reach to see it provide more than GJ so far.
It's just a matter of barrel life..
I don't think WS2 changes barrel life as I apply it(with full cleanings).
GJ might.. But like you said, that remains to be seen.
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Old 01-17-2010, 10:20 AM
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I one of the outcasts who clean a bore to metal -after every trip to the range.
I do this to prevent all you're running into.
Now I use WS2, and pre-foul the clean bore with a dry burnishing before the gun goes back in the safe. My bullets are coated as well.

I use Speedy's cleaning method, but flush the bore to squeaky clean afterward with the best alcohol I can get.
I would think this would work for GJ as well.
You just have to get your bores where basic cleaning -works.

But I get the impression here that GJ is not suited for pre-fouling. You mention fouling -with a few shots. If it's leaving the bore wet, at all, it does not pre-foul.
It sounds like it reduces copper and extends accurate shot count though.

I think I'll stick with WS2. There is no reach to see it provide more than GJ so far.
It's just a matter of barrel life..
I don't think WS2 changes barrel life as I apply it(with full cleanings).
GJ might.. But like you said, that remains to be seen.


What is WS2? Not sure I've heard of that.
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Re: Microlon Gun Juice Report

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I got some about 10yrs ago from RoseMill and still have enough for the rest of my life.
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Old 01-17-2010, 12:22 PM
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I one of the outcasts who clean a bore to metal -after every trip to the range.
I do this to prevent all you're running into.
Now I use WS2, and pre-foul the clean bore with a dry burnishing before the gun goes back in the safe. My bullets are coated as well.

I use Speedy's cleaning method, but flush the bore to squeaky clean afterward with the best alcohol I can get.
I would think this would work for GJ as well.
You just have to get your bores where basic cleaning -works.

But I get the impression here that GJ is not suited for pre-fouling. You mention fouling -with a few shots. If it's leaving the bore wet, at all, it does not pre-foul.
It sounds like it reduces copper and extends accurate shot count though.

I think I'll stick with WS2. There is no reach to see it provide more than GJ so far.
It's just a matter of barrel life..
I don't think WS2 changes barrel life as I apply it(with full cleanings).
GJ might.. But like you said, that remains to be seen.
Mike, I'm not sure what you mean by "all you're running into" If it's the pressure from a wet GJ bore, that's not an issue if you use a couple of light loads to foul with. The GJ can be dry patched after wtting the bore with it or it will dry on it's own after a period of time. I still however use a light load for fouling. And if I have cleaned my rifle, lubed with GJ and stored for a while, I'll run another wet patch of GJ (followed with a little scrubbing with a nylon brush) through the bore before firng the fouling shots to freshen up the coating.

The WS2 sounds sound interesting.

Mark
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Old 01-17-2010, 12:32 PM
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One more thought on barrel break-in. If I ever break-in any more factory barrels, I'll use KG2 for the first few shots. KG2 is a mild polishing abrasive and is recommended for barrel break-in. After cleaning the bore to bare metal, you run a wet patch of KG2 through then fire. It's a kind of fire lapping but supposidly milder than fire lapping. I think this would speed and improve the break-in process for rough barrels. Dont over do it though.


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