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Low recoil rifle for whitetails and coyotes. Opinions?

 
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Old 06-02-2013, 12:39 PM
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Re: Low recoil rifle for whitetails and coyotes. Opinions?

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Obviously you did not read over the hole thread. They are not running the case at max pressure. Thats how they are getting low recol and over 3000 rounds out of a barrel. 130 vld's going 3250. You can't win the Hide cup if you can't spot your own hits out to 1100 yards. They have no kick.
BS, a 130 gr bullet at 3250 fps in a lightweight rifle does have recoil. I don't think the OP is engaged to George.
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Re: Low recoil rifle for whitetails and coyotes. Opinions?

recoil is a result of velocity and bullet weight. You can download a 300 win to lower than 30 06 velocitys and recoil. You can load a 308 lower than this so on and so on etc. Stock design and muzzle brakes also tend to reduce recoil and how the rifle handles respectively. Out of the rifles that I have built for smaller framed females I have learned that recoil is only half of the issue to flinching or worse, not enjoying the sport of shooting or hunting. ADVISE Build a 7mm08 and load it with some Barnes 100 gr bullets.22 to 24 in barrel to keep the blast further away, shorter barrels especially with brakes pressure the senses and induce flinch. MAG NA PORT the barrel, have the 6 port done. Use cfe223 powder with good brass. Go have fun More killing power than any other mentioned cartridges and easy expandable for larger game once she gets into the sport. You can download but you always reach a point that you can not upload any more.
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recoil is a result of velocity and bullet weight. You can download a 300 win to lower than 30 06 velocitys and recoil. You can load a 308 lower than this so on and so on etc. Stock design and muzzle brakes also tend to reduce recoil and how the rifle handles respectively. Out of the rifles that I have built for smaller framed females I have learned that recoil is only half of the issue to flinching or worse, not enjoying the sport of shooting or hunting. ADVISE Build a 7mm08 and load it with some Barnes 100 gr bullets.22 to 24 in barrel to keep the blast further away, shorter barrels especially with brakes pressure the senses and induce flinch. MAG NA PORT the barrel, have the 6 port done. Use cfe223 powder with good brass. Go have fun More killing power than any other mentioned cartridges and easy expandable for larger game once she gets into the sport. You can download but you always reach a point that you can not upload any more.
you are incorrect. Recoil is from the results of bolt thrust per square inches of area of the case head and a ratio of that to the actual weight of the rifle. The bullet as it hits the rifeling actually pushes the rifle forward off your shoulder for an instant. That's why most belted magnum cases have roughly 20% more recoil under similar chamber pressures and with the same bullet.
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Old 06-02-2013, 05:30 PM
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Re: Low recoil rifle for whitetails and coyotes. Opinions?

another vote for the .25s. Either the 250 sav or the 257 roberts are about ideal for what your doing.
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Re: Low recoil rifle for whitetails and coyotes. Opinions?

another round that nobody has mentioned is the 6XC in a fast twist barrel shooting 95 grain plus bullets. I still favor the 250 Savage improved, but this is also a great little round. Even the 6BR would get the job done for 350 yards or less.
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Old 06-03-2013, 11:16 AM
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Re: Low recoil rifle for whitetails and coyotes. Opinions?

The 243 wssm or 25 wssm would be fine candidates and there happens to be one of these for sale on this forum. I have a coworker that let's his granddaughter hunt w/ his 6br, she's 12 so probably light enough recoil and shoots like a laser
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Re: Low recoil rifle for whitetails and coyotes. Opinions?

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The 243 wssm or 25 wssm would be fine candidates and there happens to be one of these for sale on this forum. I have a coworker that let's his granddaughter hunt w/ his 6br, she's 12 so probably light enough recoil and shoots like a laser
WSM cases have become hard to come by these days. Plus they are a true high pressure design with a large case head. Meaning more recoil (probably more than a hot loaded .243). Looking in the Hornaday manual, I see the velocity tobe similar to a .250AI with a 100 grain bullet, but with about 20% more recoil. (similar chamber pressures)

You can easilly load the 6BR to about 2750 with a 100 grain bullet (will actually go a little faster). They are known to shoot extremely well, and are also a very forgiving round. The 6XC is also known to be very accurate, and probably will approach the 2850 fps mark without too much trouble. The 6/250AI will do 3000 fps with a 105 grain bullet, but you start to build up pressure fast at those speeds. Nice thing about the 6BR is that you can get by with a fairly short barrel (22" would be fine) to help keep the weight down and also give you a much better off hand shooting balance.

One other round not mentioned, and is also a knowingly accurate round is the 6x47 based off the .222mag case. It will push a 90 grain bullet to about 2700 fps, and with that small case had, have a lighter bolt thrust. Be one heck of a coyote round as well!
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