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View Poll Results: Choose 3 bullets you would reccomend for the above described purpose.
Hornady 165 SST 35 11.29%
Horn 165 Amax 34 10.97%
Horn 168 HPBT Match 14 4.52%
Nosler 165 Ballistic tip 62 20.00%
Nos 165 Ballistic Silver tip 18 5.81%
Nos 168 J4 HPBT 13 4.19%
Sierra 165 Game king HPBT 26 8.39%
Sie 165 Game king Spitzer BT 32 10.32%
Sie 168 Match king HPBT 68 21.94%
Speer 165 Spitzer BT 3 0.97%
Spe 165 Deep Shok 2 0.65%
Spe 168 HPBT Match 3 0.97%
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Looking for a good all around bullet for .308 win.

 
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Old 11-13-2007, 11:10 AM
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I am currently working with the Berger 185 in a 20 inch barrel 308 put together with parts I had laying around. This barrel has an extremely long throat. I have decided to seat the bullets into the lands and so far shot the 175, 185 and 190 Berger bullets with it. I started with my accuracy load of 45g Varget and the 175 bullet. Then 43g Varget and the 185 and 195. All went into the same hole, a .8 group for 13 rounds. I have upped the ante with the 185 and in half grain increments gone up to 45g Varget. These 5 shot went into a .5 group without any pressure signs so now have loaded 5 rounds from 45g Varget to 47g. Need to get to the range to shoot these and see when I start getting pressure signs. All shots were at 100y. I chono'd the initial (43g) shots and got 2571 with the 175's (45g), 2437 with the 185's and 2422 with the 195's. It is interesting to note that all the bullets would have gone into the same hole at 100y had I shot them all at the same time.
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Old 11-13-2007, 01:37 PM
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Just returned from the range. Shot the 45-47g Varget and the 185 Berger. Still no pressure signs! I'm amazed at this. No ejector marks on the brass (Lapua) no flattening of the primers (CCI large rifle). I should have taken my chronograph but it was raining and I couldn't set it up in the rain. I'm only looking for 2600 f/s for this bullet. I think I'll load up 5 of the 47g charges and chrono them before I do anything else.
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Old 11-16-2007, 11:03 PM
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I got to the range and chrono'd the 47g 185's. I got 2650 at the muzzle. They also grouped very well. Now to get out to longer ranges.
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I just killed a bunch of whitetails with the 150 grain Interbond Hornady Factory load and placed each bullet at the same location high on the shoulder. Well over a dozen instant kills, neat thing is the critters drop with their white belly hairs facing the shooter every time. Ranges out to 360 yards, most were in the 200-250. Got a double, two instant kills with the high shoulder shot with one bullet - waited till they lined up exact and boom. 165's are fine but so are 150's, maybe not as good for really long stuff but my recent shoot was proof to me that the 150's are very deadly bullets on whitetails. All the meat went to charities, we supplied a lot of hungry people last week.
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Re: Looking for a good all around bullet for .308 win.

I think you missed the 5 best bullet choices in your list.

I would have thought you would have included the following:

1.Swift Scirocco

2.Nosler Accubond

3. Barnes XXX

4. Nosler Partition

5. Swift A-frame

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Old 12-22-2008, 06:02 PM
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Re: Looking for a good all around bullet for .308 win.

From the choices listed in the poll I selected the Sierra Game King Spizter but like others have pointed out, of all the bullets available on the market today and not listed in the poll, my choices would be in order

1st - 168 Barnes TTSX
2nd - 165 Swift Scirocco II
3rd - 165 Barnes MRX
4th - 168 Berger VLD
5th - 165 Swift A-Frame

I think one has to look at Velocity / Terminal impact / BC / Maximum Retention
& sheer "knock down in their tracks" power.

If were talking about a "Whitetail" bullet, realistically "most" manufactures do a decent job producing an all around bullet for this cal. It's up to us as hunters / re-loaders to find the right combination for our rifles and the game we are hunting.

Bottom Line!

A lot of thought needs to go into finding /making that "magic" bullet.

Geography, elevation, temp, terrain, distance and so on play's a vital roll in making the decisions needed for that "all around bullet".

Just one man's opinion!
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Re: Looking for a good all around bullet for .308 win.

I am glad we can agree to disagree on bullet performance. I do not think that any J4 jacketed bullets hold together well enough all the time. Target, plinking, and super explosive bullets will kill a deer. But the chances of a non recovery mortal would go up substantially. I like controlled expansion with accuracy. Two holes are better than one. Some of the bullets you listed are quite good and others not so good. Another concern is cooper fouling.

I guess you can't have everything.

Have a great holiday.

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