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View Poll Results: Choose 3 bullets you would reccomend for the above described purpose.
Hornady 165 SST 35 11.29%
Horn 165 Amax 34 10.97%
Horn 168 HPBT Match 14 4.52%
Nosler 165 Ballistic tip 62 20.00%
Nos 165 Ballistic Silver tip 18 5.81%
Nos 168 J4 HPBT 13 4.19%
Sierra 165 Game king HPBT 26 8.39%
Sie 165 Game king Spitzer BT 32 10.32%
Sie 168 Match king HPBT 68 21.94%
Speer 165 Spitzer BT 3 0.97%
Spe 165 Deep Shok 2 0.65%
Spe 168 HPBT Match 3 0.97%
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Looking for a good all around bullet for .308 win.

 
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Old 03-02-2005, 01:07 AM
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Looking for a good all around bullet for .308 win.

I am in the process of reevaluating a bullet choice for my .308 win Rem VLS. I will mostly be shooting targets and rock chucks in practice for shooting LR deer. I am considering accuracy and BC and terminal performance on deer first and varmints second. These choices are all within my price range.

I am making this a poll to reduce any chance of starting the same ol' discussion and to encourage participation from those who are sick of answering this type of question for everyone in every caliber.

Please post any comments you feel are HELPFUL.

I will ask the almighty mods to nuke any arguments. The whole thread if necessary.
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Re: Looking for a good all around bullet for .308 win.

To be honest, you really do not list a bad bullet up there for performance on deer size game. I have shot most of these bullets and all have performed well in certain rifles.

Bullets like the Ballistic Tips, Sierra Kings and Hornady bullets generally shoot very well in most rifles and handguns. Of the three I like ht eon game performance of the Ballistic Tip the best because of its solid base and heavier tapered jacket.

The Speer Deep Shock has alot of potential but I fear that it will not be given a fair shake simply because it is a "Speer" bullet.

The only bullet I would say may be a bit sub par compared to the rest in accuracy would be the Speer 165 gr Spitzer as I have found some of these bullets, the HotCore design anyway, can at times have air pockets in the core which is a result of the bullet making process with this bullet.

This inconsistancy can be a problem at longer ranges.

Really, whichever your rifle likes is the best pick. As far as for use on deer, there is not a bullet in the bunch that would not get the job done at 308 velocities.

Good shooting,

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Re: Looking for a good all around bullet for .308 win.

Thanks for you input Kirby. I actually got to tour the speer/CCI plant as a machining student and I picked up a sample of each stage of the process. I did not know about the air pocket problem so I am glad you told me.
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Re: Looking for a good all around bullet for .308 win.

I was all excited... untill I couldn't find the 175SMK.
Was this an oversite, or a intentional exclusion?
For 308, there isn't really a better match of bc, and velocity.
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Re: Looking for a good all around bullet for .308 win.

4ked Horn,

I have only seen this in the Hot COre bullets and have only proven in the 160 gr 7mm bullet as several years ago I milled a cross section of the bullets and found the air pockets on several.

IT is not a huge problem, in fact probably less the 5% of the bullets but it was a problem several years back, maybe they have corrected the problem since I do not know.

Easy to find out, weight the bullets and any with air pockets will be very obvious.

GOod Shooting!!

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Re: Looking for a good all around bullet for .308 win.

Abinok. I am seeking (as are we all) a good ballance of velocity and BC adding up to a decent terminal momentum. I considered including bullets in these lines from 150gr up to and including 180 but the list would have been way to long.

I will consider your post as a vote for these. Could you tell me what sort of velocities you are getting with these in a .308 so I can plunk it into a ballistics calculator and compare it with the others?

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Re: Looking for a good all around bullet for .308 win.

Kirby, I was pressed for time earlier but wanted to reply. Now I will ask if you know anything about the Speer Deep Shok bullets? I see in the Midway catalog that they seem to use the same hot core process to construct them but these and the Hornady SST have me quite interested.

I will probably call speer before buying them to discuss the air pocket issue and to see if they have resolved it. Again I appreciate the heads up on this issue.
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