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Light weight, short action, low recoil, mid range build input wanted

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Unread 05-20-2013, 02:52 PM
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Re: Light weight, short action, low recoil, mid range build input wanted

If you wanted something definitely more capable than the 7mm-08 (which to me is like shooting a .17 HMR), but not as bad as a magnum's recoil, you could always look into the .280 Ackley Improved. The ones I have shot are VERY smooth recoil, and not sharp...Especially if you use a radial brake like a Vias Brake. Which is one hell of a cartridge that really will send a 7mm projectile above and beyond to kill anything on this continent.

But you'd have to use a standard long-action for it instead of a standard short-action.
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Unread 05-20-2013, 03:37 PM
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Re: Light weight, short action, low recoil, mid range build input wanted

Originally Posted by Michael Eichele View Post
When I saw the thread title I thought .260 rem, 708, 6.5x284 and of course, the 308.

Since you threw the term 'moose' in there, I'd say if you're stuck on a short action with low recoil the 308 is a great choice. I've killed a number of Alaska/Yukon moose with the 308. With the right bullet, it's hell on them. You do have to be carefull about bullet choices. The best results I've had with the 308 and moose was with the 180 Barnes. Today, I would use the 175 LRX or 180 Accubonds if I took off after moose again with my 308.

The 180-200 grain 338 pills don't have the SD for adequate penetration and the 225-250 will kick her ass in a light rifle so to me, the 338 federal is out.

708 could be good WITH 160+ grain bullets of heavy duty construction.

All that said, the Swedes have been killing moose for a very long time with the 6.5mm. I think 140 partitions or Accubonds might work very well. Moose while big and sturdy don't have the will power to live such as elk. There are exceptions but for the most part, they give up pretty easy. What you need here is penetration. A quality the 6.5 is known for. My hunting buddy killed his first Alaska/Yukon moose with a 6.5 Swedish Mauser using 140 partitions. It was a very clean kill.

Keep us posted.

The 160 and 175gr TSX penetrate very well....better than any high SD Berger and probably better or at least equal to a 225gr Accubond.

Alaskan moose are double the size of the Swedish version. The problem with the 6.5s on AK moose (as I see it) is if it buggers off in high gear after being shot it will head for the thickest God forsaken swamped out hiding hole in the area..It will be dead alright, but when you find it (if you do) you might wish you didn't find it!

I like the 7-08 as a sensible minimum.
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Re: Light weight, short action, low recoil, mid range build input wanted

My first thought was either the 7mm-08 or the 308 as well. I've been going through this same exercise trying to figure what would be the best rifle for my son to start out with. If you were not planning on the larger animals I would say 7mm-08, but given you want to hunt bigger critters, I would definitely go 308.

Yes, you can kill just about any critter with one of the smaller calibers, but I am personally a believer in bigger is better for large animals. With the 308 you can always hand load very light, low recoil loads that will have the same recoil as a light 7mm-08 load. But with heavier bullets, the 308 will out perform the 7mm based on energy.

Load up some light loads with light bullets for practice at the range so your wife does not develop a flinch. on the side you can work up the heavy load and get it dialed in for the hunt.
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Unread 05-21-2013, 06:16 PM
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Re: Light weight, short action, low recoil, mid range build input wanted

A friend has a 7mm 08. We used it a few yrs ago when spotlighting on his ranch. 120 gr bullets. Recoil didn't seem to be much more than my 22-250. VERY mild. Bigger bullets will kick more. Great selection of bullets. Its what I'd pick. See if a friend has one you can try. Bruce
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Unread 05-24-2013, 11:12 PM
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Re: Light weight, short action, low recoil, mid range build input wanted

So i was doing some internet browsing today, i think right now she leaning towards a new model 70 featherweight ss. She likes the look and the way the metal contrast against the dark walnut. Barrel is already short, but having it chopped a little shorter will not hurt, bed it and tune the trigger? Is that going to kick the snot out of her? I dont think so?
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Unread 05-24-2013, 11:32 PM
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Re: Light weight, short action, low recoil, mid range build input wanted

With my wife in mind and knowing how she likes to shoot I'm going to put together a 6.5x47 Lapua, easy recoil, excellent bullets and it can take a decent volume of shooting and it's an actual short action round with ballistics that aren't a turd. If she feels the need to whack a bull out farther then she can shoot one of my braked rifles, she shoots my ground howitzers very well.
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Unread 05-25-2013, 05:27 AM
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Re: Light weight, short action, low recoil, mid range build input wanted

308 loaded with 165 partitions and go hunting about anything.
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