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Old 04-17-2007, 11:10 PM
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Re: Lawton Barrels

which Stiller's did you check? Are they the Pedators?
I think these are the one that his post is talking about.
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Old 04-19-2007, 04:14 PM
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Re: Lawton Barrels

Bushchook,

I am checking my e-mails and such remotely as I am currently on an exotic sheep hunt with my dad and brother so I will have to keep this short.

I would also like to ask which model of Stiller receiver you have. I am referring to the Predator receivers which is their economy Rem 700 replacement receiver, not their upper end match grade receiver.

This simply proves my point, its the variation from one receiver to another that you see.

As I have mentioned, many of the Lawton M7000 receivers I have measured were on par with the Nesika and BAT receivers as far as squareness. Some were mic'ed out with marginally higher numbers and a few were quite a bit more then I like to see in a receiver for my standards.

That also said, I have built on several of these receivers just to check to see how this may or may not effect the rifles accuracy, to be blunt, I have not had a problem with any of them meeting my accuracy requirement of 1/2 moa for three shots at 100 yards.

To be honest, I could not tell a difference to be honest as all have easily passed my range tests with flying colors. This is why I say, do not run from the Lawtons or Stillers if you have one on order. If they are fitted correctly with a quality barrel with a quality chamber you will get a 1/2 moa or better rifle.

I am sure some are asking why go with these receivers over a trued Rem 700 then. Well, there are several reasons.

The Lawtons have a vastly superior receiver design as far as receiver rigidity that you can not get with a trued Rem 700. Also, as the rail base is on a single plain, it offers a much more stress free scope mounting system again increasing the strength of the rear of the receiver as well.

The Lawtons also have a Sako style extractor and bolt stop, both big bonuses over the Rem 700s factory extractor and bolt stop.

To be honest, they are flat out cheaper then a trued Rem 700 once you get the Rem trued and upgraded with all that will be needed especially if you upgrade to an aftermarket trigger.

So, while it sounds like I am coming down hard on the Lawton M7000 receivers, that is really not the case. Being an anal rifle builder, things like a couple ten thou more in variation across the bolt face are things that keep me up at night but in reality, their effects on most rifles and shooting conditions that we experience, the effects on accuracy this may cause is not really measurable due to other factors that influence a rifles accuracy and consistancy output much more.

If your looking at simple numbers on a receiver, there is no denying that the economy line of receivers that are Rem 700 replacement receivers that cost under $800-$900 will have some variation from receiver to receiver as far as squareness.

Again, I have tested them without trueing and found this did not prevent the rifles I have built from meeting my 1/2 moa accuracy requirements and as such I can not say I would not use them for a customers rifle.

Again, being an anal rifle builder that thinks in terms of 0.0001" when dealing with a receivers squareness that I true, it is just hard for me to see that and leave it alone is all.

That is the reason for me designing my personal receiver which will have a full review here very soon as soon as it has been tested and proven. I have had this receiver design in mind for a couple years to be honest, just now got to the point where I can push forward and bring it to life financially.

Good Shooting!!

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Old 04-19-2007, 07:46 PM
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Re: Lawton Barrels

Kirby,
So thats where youve been the last few days! Thats livin! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
Good luck! and your first words to me "WE WANT PICS!".

And to keep this in line, I think my Lawton 7500 gonna be just fine!
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