Like I have already said, find a manufacturer that has made them for a while with all the bugs worked out of them. Someone with several thousand manufactured with with a good track record and all the gremlins resolved is a great place to start. Spending money for one from an upstart company could result in similar problems to the Lawton actions. There is a lot more to making an action than just having square and concentric components and/or properties. Remember you are crawling behind 60,000 to 70,000 psi in pressure.
I wonder how much liability insurance one needs to manufacture actions. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
I just read your response to wildcat. My 338am is going to have the Lawton M8000 Reaceiver. If there is any chance there might be a problem let's go with some one else.
I don't feel that my smith should have to work on a custom action to make it right. but I trust your judgement 100% so I will wait to hear, you can e-mail me on this for what you think. The responses do not sound good. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]
New shooter, I feel the same way about the action. I ordered a Lawton 7500 Action, for my 300-WSM project, and I don't want my smith to have to do work on a custom action to make it perfect. So, I have decided to use a Nesika Model L Action for my project. I will use the Lawton Action for another project. I am sure the Lawton actions are good, however, I don't want to have to have work done to it to make it custom. I want my 300-WSM project to be as accurate as possible, as I will be shooting small ground squirrels out to 1000 yards, so I need all the accuracy I can get.
I am not trying to spook anyone away from the Lawton receivers or barrels. I am just saying they are in the same class as all the other receivers out there for that price range. If you have a Lawton on order with me, I would not cancel the order because I will make it true and square if it does not show up that way.
The M8000 and M7500 receivers are much better then the M7000. There is a noticable quality difference between the two as the M7000 is a true economy grade receiver.
Still if you order receivers from Stiller or any other custom receiver in this price range you will see the same variation from what I have seen by actually measuring different sample receivers.
Again, I would not run away from the Lawton receivers, just realize that the M7000 is what it is, an economy line receiver and Barney will tell you the exact same thing.
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As such, I have designed my own receiver design which should be available this summer that will solve these issues and also offer things no other receiver that I know of to date offers in a receiver that will fit into a Rem 700 stock and use Rem 700 accessaries.
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Doesn't news this big deserve its own thread? Or did I miss it?
What, when, how much, and can I be on a waiting list or something?
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After reading Kirby's disturbing report above I checked the Stiller squareness issue out with the smith that is building my .243AI .
Below is the result of his testing .
Quote : "I currently have 3 Stiller actions of various models in stock, 2 different Bat actions and currently only 1 Stolle Panda. All six were checked and not one was more than the .00025" that I ask".