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How tough is Norma Head-Stamped 300 Win Mag Brass?

 
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Old 12-08-2012, 10:32 AM
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Re: How tough is Norma Head-Stamped 300 Win Mag Brass?

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, RWS is stronger than any of the others, so unless your using compressed loads this just means you can have the same results with a lower powder charge, I haven't weighed any but I bet RWS is over 50 grns heavier.
Well, I will agree in some cases, and also I never use compressed loads. But I have tested this quite a bit and in my testing I have found the significant loss of volume with the RWS definitely requires a reduced charge of 3 gr or more with heavier bullets. This is both with the 300 win and the 7mm/300 win. We have seen best velocity from the same rifles, powder and bullets with larger volume cases like WW, RP, Lapua, and Graf. The RWS is great brass and tough as nails. But I feel we are giving up a little velocity using RWS.

I was involved in the building of Camp10's rifle. It is an awesome custom 7mm/300 win that shoots lights out and I have seen him shoot it to well over a mile. The initial load with 180 Bergers was developed using RWS brass but we knew we were leaving some velocity on the table. So I had him get some Norma in hopes it would have the same volume as Lapua or WW which is what we have gotten our best velocity with. So we need to test some more, but I too feel if the Norma is soft like Wheatherby and other Norma head stamp it will loose primer pockets too quickly like Norma brass typically does.

I should also add that my 300 win Lapua brass seems to be holding up better than any Norma brass I have ever used. I have many firings on it using heavy bullets and max charges. My velocity is great too. But I have also noticed that the primer pockets are loosening in some cases. This is not usually the case with any other Lapua headstamped brass I have used. The Lapua primer pocket fit remains consistant with all the cases I have used that Lapua actually manufactured. This I am sure is due to the involvement Norma had in manufacturing the 300 win brass.

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Old 12-08-2012, 11:46 AM
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Re: How tough is Norma Head-Stamped 300 Win Mag Brass?

Ihave ben using winchester brass in my .338 win with max loads for years with no problems . granted i dont think ther brass is as good as it ws in the 90s but i get 6 + loadings
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Re:what is the best brass for 300 rum?

is remington the onaly maker of brass for the 300 rum . becuse the primer pockets are week in remington's
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Re: How tough is Norma Head-Stamped 300 Win Mag Brass?

Nosler and Federal also make 300 Ultra brass, isn't really any tougher than Remington just more uniform and weight consistant.
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Re: How tough is Norma Head-Stamped 300 Win Mag Brass?

So, to get back on track here to the OP's original question....

Who is using Norma 300 WIN brass and how is it holding up??

I would like to hear from someone with first hand experience on this too.

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Old 12-08-2012, 06:55 PM
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Re: How tough is Norma Head-Stamped 300 Win Mag Brass?

Jeff I have used Norma 300wm brass in the past, as far as holding up I rate it with the older Winchester brass, it is pretty tough, best thing with Norma brass is to hit it with a light load on the first firing, say minimum charge of H1000 under a 165 or bulk 168s, then go to your normal loads, this helps to work harden the case heads so to speak. After that you should get 6-8 top end loads from them. I still use Norma brass in 257 7mm and 300wby, my weatherby hunting load for the 300 which is a 24" barreled vanguard runs 2995fps with 208 amaxs, 89.2grns H1000, fed215Ms, current brass has the 5th load in it and the primer pockets are just a little less snug than new cases. I like Norma brass, I had a bad batch of 6.5x284 brass from them that had soft case heads and wouldn't hold a primer for the 4th load, but I won't hold one incident against them. Also a lot of times Norma is more consistent in weight than Lapua on brass other than 300wm, since they're the same. Give it a try, I don't think you'll be disappointed.
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Re: How tough is Norma Head-Stamped 300 Win Mag Brass?

Good to know, thanks Backwoods
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