Since yesterday morning, I have not been back to the site. I have not read any comments or responses posted after my comments and responses of yesterday.... However I do have a few announcements that should interest those who are routinely reading this thread.
--First, I think that we have pointed out the flaws in the evaluation process, the premature conclusions and the published report (up to this time). RG understands that our measuring limitations are 25-millionths of an inch. If someone (unbiased person) could conduct measurements more accurately feel free to do so and properly amend the report that included the crude measurements and procedures by uncalibrated instruments that could not indicate to the necessary number of significant digits.
--We will refrain from further commenting and/or responding until the last bullet is fired and the final keystroke is completed by Byan (Berger) and/or Noel. We will then provide a field report that uses the information that Bryan (Berger) publishes and apply it to actual field conditions. You see, we understand that Bryan (Berger) cannot fully develop tack-driving loads and shoot enough projectiles to have an "accurate" assessment of the performance with the limited number of bullets he has.... So, we will help with the application of his conclusion(s) by using loads that are on good days less than .2 moa and .3 moa on the worst days that we shoot.
--We feel that all the germane information that one needs for direct product comparisons by an end user was provided way before page (whatever page number this winds up being assigned to). Personally, I think page one was about all that is needed to come to a conclusion for hunting applications at the ranges where the average shooter on this website limits himself.
--There is a line that goes something like this "me thinks you protest too loudly". This is certainly the case as of today. Based on the esteemed ballisticians (Bryan Litz (Berger) and Noel Carlson) protests about this product (which defy the actual field testing that end users have accomplished and reported), have attracted the attention of a multi-national company in Europe who has entered into fast track negotiations with RG Henson for rights of importation into the European Union. One of the things that we came up with to support this European company is the ".338 test pack" which contain any number or combination of bullets.
--Any customer or interested individual could purchase a .338 "test pack" which includes 265s, 280s and 300 grain projectiles for use in their own testing, in their own guns, under their conditions and to ultimately evaluate which is better suited for their barrel, cartridge and firearm needs...
We think it is a good idea and RG will be offering it to USA customers as well. If you are interested, contact him at:
Again, as previously stated, since we feel all pertinent data for a reasonable product evaluation for the 265 grain HATS by an end user is already available on the thread, we will not be posting on this thread again in response to questions or posts until Bryan (Berger) and Noel have completed their final key strokes on the report. Once that is accomplished, we will publish the field data that we get using their final conclusions.... After all the thread is not about Berger's tests, it is about my testing results.
Again with an update, Berger has refused to respond and RECIPROCATE RG Henson's willingness to provide projectiles for testing.... This seems as an indication to me that they do not want their products tested side by side the HATS. Anyway, for the life of me, I cannot understand why they are not cooperating........
If you have any questions for me, please feel free to contact me at firstname.lastname@example.org
Since RG is now so busy, I will speak for him.... RG would like to thank everyone for the kind words and encouragement and he would also like to thank both Bryan (Berger) and Noel for their methods of attracting the interest of the Finnish company.....
I suspect New Zealand, Australia and Canada will be forthcoming shortly...
REMEMBER, the only bullet company that stands behind their products by offering refunds to those that cannot get them to work in their equipment is RG Henson bulletsmith of the HATS.
As for me, I also appreciate ALL the product interest, encouragement and kind words...... Don't be a stranger and please feel free to contact me via email with any question that you may have.... If I don't know the answer, I will get it for you!
On a last note, one of our new customers (Rocco) has been tuning his gun at 565 yards and he is getting 1.5" groups with the HATS..... Great shooting Rocco keep it up. The animals are in trouble now!