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Help me plan out a mid range rifle? .25-06 & light barrel experts needed.

 
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Old 05-06-2011, 12:59 PM
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Re: Help me plan out a mid range rifle? .25-06 & light barrel experts needed.

The suggestion of a Remington 700SPS is a good one. Given you are pretty much limited to factory ammo, I would give serious consideration to 308 (generally speaking, I would go up or down a caliber e.g. 6mm, 6.5mm or 7.62mm as they have better BCs than the .25). An SPS will cost you ~$500.

Once you have the rifle, replace the stock and have a good smith can 'accurize' it for you - tune trigger, lap lugs, recrown barrel. This will cost ~$300 depending on the stock you chosose. Examples...

Nephew's Transformed Rifle!

My 308 1k Rifle - The Evolution Continues!

Optics..Leupold is nice. Sightron SIII is better. Their 6-24x50 will run you ~$800
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Old 05-06-2011, 02:17 PM
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Re: Help me plan out a mid range rifle? .25-06 & light barrel experts needed.

I would look into a rem model 7 or a savage predator. Both would be a great starting point for upgrades. However I would go with a .243 (very low recoil). the reason is if you go to any coyote hunting forum this is most likely the caliber of choice in a factory load. 6mm bullets have better BC in the 85-105 range the the same .25 cal.

88gr Berger High BC FB varmint loads are a coyotes worst dream. High BC, good penetration with very few pass through's.

My 6-06 loves them
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Old 05-06-2011, 06:55 PM
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Re: Help me plan out a mid range rifle? .25-06 & light barrel experts needed.

I think the 25-06 is an excellent chioce I am shooting a 25-06AI pushing a 100G SMK at 3366 fps A groundhog at 500 yards is in grave danger from the first shot, and I have more 800 yd kills on prairy dogs than I can count. Sell something you don't need and screw on a custom lilja, shilen, hart, or douglas, pac nor, 1-10 twist barrel on a remington action and your in business.
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Old 05-07-2011, 01:35 AM
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Re: Help me plan out a mid range rifle? .25-06 & light barrel experts needed.

257 wby in a Vanguard, had one, wished I had never sold it, you would have to reload though.
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Old 05-07-2011, 03:48 PM
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Re: Help me plan out a mid range rifle? .25-06 & light barrel experts needed.

I doubt any factory mid caliber barrel's capable of even 3/4 MOA accuracy (at worst, few-shot tiny groups don't count) 700 yards away. You'll need a top quality aftermarket one for that. Kreiger comes to mind for the maker.

Barrel weight for a given length has nothing significant to do with accuracy. As long as the barrels whips the same way for each shot, it'll drive tacks; tiny headed ones at that. And barrel heat has little to do with accuracy if the receiver's properly squared on its face where the barrel tenon shoulder mates against.

While many folks like Remington actions, a Winchester 70's near 3 times as stiff, more reliable in feeding, extracting and safety operation and easier to operate with its bolt handle shape and size. Conventional epoxy bedding's just as good as the more expensive pillar version.

While capable of good accuracy, the .25-06's a barrel burner. While factory barrels may last 1500 to 2000 rounds, a tack-driving 1/2 MOA one at 700 yards won't last more than 800 to 900 rounds at peak accuracy levels. Too much powder's burned pushin' that bullet out so darned fast eroding away the throat. A 6.5-.284's probably a better choice; a favorite in long range matches and good for 1200 to 1500 rounds of 1/2 MOA performance at 700 yards.

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Old 05-07-2011, 09:23 PM
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Re: Help me plan out a mid range rifle? .25-06 & light barrel experts needed.

I,ve got a factory 25-06 Sako that's 40+ years old and has 1,000s of rounds thru it and it will shoot .5-.75 MOA all day long when I do my part. The only thing it has had done to it was being pillar beded. I think you're looking in the right direction. Mine has a 6.5-20x50 Zeiss on it but you would probably want something a little lower power for your application. Mike
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Old 05-07-2011, 09:49 PM
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Re: Help me plan out a mid range rifle? .25-06 & light barrel experts needed.

Well I'll throw in 2 more cents, like mention a 25 cal is not the best option, and second if everyone on this forum read this post atleat 80% of the members would agree that your not going to find a more accurate out of the box, production rifle than a savage, they are often more accurate than other brands that have been "accurized" and I have shot factory savage rifles into single digit groups at 1k.
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