Long Range Hunting Online Magazine


Go Back   Long Range Hunting Online Magazine > Rifles, Reloading, Optics, Equipment > Rifles, Bullets, Barrels and Ballistics


Reply

Has anyone used matrix bullets?

 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #8  
Old 12-25-2008, 05:02 PM
Bronze Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: WA
Posts: 91
Re: Has anyone used matrix bullets?

I've got more info but I want to make sure this message goes through before typing it all for the 3rd time and not having it post. I did change computers so we'll see if it posts.
__________________
Steve

.................................................. .....................
I'd rather be hunting with Uncle Ted!
Backstrap fever!
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 12-25-2008, 05:40 PM
Bronze Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: WA
Posts: 91
Re: Has anyone used matrix bullets?

OK, so there was something wrong with the other computer. Here goes:

It's possible that they purchased wildcat. I've spoken with the owner recently and I have some 270's 150 gr on the way. The owner seems like a stand up guy and I hope to test their bullets out real soon. He also mentioned that he can make them in other weights as well.

I noticed on their site that bullet that came apart from the jacket said that it was a non bonded bullet.

Roy, I'll let you know how the 150's perform for me. Hopefully that will give you an idea of what a larger grained bullet would do for you.

So here is the data that I will be going after, if there is anything else you'd like to see let me know.

Brass: mfg, o.a.l., weight
Primer: mfg, (mag, BR, or match)
Powder: mfg, type, grains per load
Bullet: o.a.l., weight
speed through chrono
conditions: altitude, temp, b.p., wind

I will test it on some wet newspaper as well and recover bullets to see what its retained weight is. I'll take pictures of the targets, as well as before and after of the bullets. I won't be able to shoot at great distances anytime real soon but 100 yards should do the trick until I can get somewhere to stretch my legs.
__________________
Steve

.................................................. .....................
I'd rather be hunting with Uncle Ted!
Backstrap fever!
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 12-25-2008, 06:58 PM
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Yakima, Washington
Posts: 3,833
Re: Has anyone used matrix bullets?

I just received an email from Marshal of Matrix and he said that they did not purchase Wildcat Bullets from Richard.

He said he hasn't had any luck producing a VLD that gives great accuracy.

I'd asked him about 7mm bullets and he said that tomorrow he would make the heaviest one he could and get back to me as to how it turns out. I'm not sure about the ogive configuration as he mentioned a couple of different profiles.

He said that he has J4 jackets on order, but for the time being he uses Sierra 2200s or the Corbin J30 jackets. He said he has new dies on order so it sounds like he's having the same problems with die and jacket supply that Richard was.
__________________
ss7mm
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 12-25-2008, 07:39 PM
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Yakima, Washington
Posts: 3,833
Re: Has anyone used matrix bullets?

Just got another email from Marshal and he said about the heaviest he could make in 7mm would be 198 grains with a .090" meplat on J30 jackets. He said the estimated BC would be around .532.

I told him the type of bullet needed for long range stuff and the ranges we shoot at and the BCs we'd hope for in a long range bullet so we'll see if he makes any changes.

I told him I'd pass on them now but to let me know if he ever gets the VLD configuration problems straightened out.
__________________
ss7mm
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 12-25-2008, 09:41 PM
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Blackfoot, Idaho
Posts: 8,041
Re: Has anyone used matrix bullets?

ss7mm, roundss,

I believe the Wildcat bullets in 169.5 class in 277 were corbin jackets (They were tapered jackets, I believe) and performed on the high side of expectations in every category.

The 195s in 277 were Sierra jackets and didn't pan out at all. Dusted badly in my slightly warn barrel. Plus they never ever shot well. I think they were on the edge of failure from the get go.

The bullets shown on the web page, thought they couldn't be enlarged, didn't quite look like Wildcats.......

On another thread it looks like the Utah boys have something up their sleeve(s) w/Berger 168s and 180s at a decent velocity.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 01-03-2009, 10:55 PM
Bronze Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: WA
Posts: 91
Re: Has anyone used matrix bullets?

I got my hands on some Matrix bullets that Marshal sent me to try out. Here are some pics that I took today while reloading 10 of them to test.

I have some Berger bullets loaded with Retumbo that I've been waiting to ty out. I got 70 gr of retumbo meassured out and loaded into the cases and attempted to seat the bullet. 70 grains of retumbo is a compressed load so I thought it would be a tight fit. Unfortunatly I could not get the bullet to a length where it would cycle through the action. So rather than really push it (and the powder) I decided to pull it and start over with H4350.
So there were no problems with it seating since it was only 56.5 grains of powder but I did have to push the overall lenght back to 2.77 to get it to cycle through. So now to get out and shoot them.

Here are some pics. I forgot the length and weight data at the reloading shack so I'll post that up later but I did remember to bring my camera home.


all 150 gr bullets Berger, CT, Matrix


Here's my drop data card with the two bullets.


All loaded up and ready to scoot down the tube.
__________________
Steve

.................................................. .....................
I'd rather be hunting with Uncle Ted!
Backstrap fever!
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 12-31-2010, 09:42 PM
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Falls Church, VA
Posts: 3,145
Re: Has anyone used matrix bullets?

Time to revive this thread as I have looked at the Matrix website and see that they have a 210grain .308 VLD with a BC of .752 Would be great to have any additional information.

roundss...any shooting results to report?

Any others with experiences they're willing to share?

Has anyone hunted with these bullets? would be interested in results on deer.
__________________
I'm not gonna shoot here. I'm gonna shoot waaaaaaaay over there!
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes


Similar Threads for: Has anyone used matrix bullets?
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
matrix bullets str8meat Reloading 5 11-21-2013 08:05 AM
190 gn Matrix Bullet B.C. .807 Who has tried them? Topshot Rifles, Bullets, Barrels and Ballistics 27 03-16-2013 11:10 PM
matrix vs wildcat bullets emmagator Rifles, Bullets, Barrels and Ballistics 2 05-29-2011 11:09 AM
7mm RUM and 190 Matrix sledder1 Reloading 3 05-18-2011 05:01 PM
Matrix Ballistics Ltd? Oliveralan Rifles, Bullets, Barrels and Ballistics 3 08-29-2010 09:34 PM

Current Poll
Spot & Stalk or Ambush For Western Deer?
MOSTLY - Spot & Stalk - 73.57%
1,002 Vote
MOSTLY - Ambush - 26.43%
360 Votes
Total Votes: 1,362
You may not vote on this poll.

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:27 AM.


Powered by vBulletin ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Management Powered by vBadvanced CMPS
All content ©2010-2014 Long Range Hunting, LLC