Like Harrell says on the web page one is about a good as another until you do something really dumb like shoot prone from the bipod in dusty soil, like in rockchuck, PD, deer, elk and moose hunting especially here in ID since global warming took over.[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img] Then you sure do wish there were no holes in the bottom of the brake. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] Especially if the wind is in your face. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]
Just my 0.02$
I may be the slowest guy on the mountain . . . . but . . . . I'm on the mountain!
I have two and good as anything else except low to ground dust. you can always throw cloth down first and go for it.
Cost is $30 vs up to $500 brakes that are a bunch of hype in my opinion. Many 1kb BR shooters are using them and we look for brakes that eliminate torque and recoil and no expense spared IF if really does it.
Yep, that is true about barrels and bullets too. That is why so many 1000 yard records are held by ruger factory barrels and speer bullets. Cheaper is always better if you are a retard. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]
Sorry for the confusion Roy, I wasn't trying to quote you, just that cockamamie comment he wrote on his website. Perhaps it was a bit too tongue in cheek. You get what you pay for, and brakes are no different, that was my point. I'd like to see the brake that is made and installed for 30 dollars win a relay in a 1000 yard BR match. Some guys eyes are brown for all the wrong reasons. Your point about holes all the way around is well stated. These guys that build one brake design for all cartridge sizes and say they have the perfect brake for your gun because they have changed the thread pitch and diameter to fit your barrel are cracking me up. That like a car salesman selling the guy that lives in Alaska who needs a 1 ton truck a Yugo instead because it has snow tires on it and he lives in a cold climate. We have a Smith at our range that built a recoil sled and tested a bunch of different brake designs, filmed them with a high speed shutter and had a tell tale on the sled rail. Let me say right here, there are major differences in brakes from one design to another both in recoil reduction and torque. Anyone who claims any different has not seen the sled in action, or they are just ignorant of the truth. I guess one who claimed there were no differences in brake designs would have a lot of explaining to do in reference to the Rule book for 1000 yard comps which limits ports to 90 degrees from the boreline? Of course we won't accept the muzzle blast alibi because you still feel the full force of that even with the 90 degree ports.....
I am not familiar with these brakes but I read about them first on BR.com in the 1k forum. Rich De I believe has been quite successful @ 1k and from what he says it is the brake he uses. Also, I don't think they are charging $30 for brake and installation, but rather $30 for the brake itself.
FWIW I can't see how all brakes are the same myself either, but I am at least curious about the Harrell now.