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Old 12-16-2010, 08:52 PM
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Re: Good Beginner Gun! Please Look

The 25-06 is a wonderful small bore cartridge. A little more than needed for coyotes, a little on the small side for elk, but a great "one rifle do it all caliber".

I wouldn't hesitate one bit to shoot an elk with mine. I've owned two and have taken too many deer and antelope over the last 20 years to even try to remember with them. Distances from 20 yds to around 550 yds. A good friend of mine shoot one also, he takes a fair number of deer every year with his too.

I would use a 110-120 grain "premium" type bullet for elk (Nosler Partition, Barnes TSX, Swift A-Frame, Nosler Accubond, Hornady GMX, ect.) and maybe limit shots to broadside and less than 400 yds if possible.

I've not had any problems taking deer with the 100grn Barnes TSX, 100grn Nosler BT's and 117 grn Sierra's. I used 85grn Nosler BT's for prarie dogs and coyotes.

The Hornady Superperformance with the 110 GMX may be worth a look.
I've had Hornady and Federal factory ammo shoot pretty good.
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Old 12-16-2010, 08:54 PM
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Re: Good Beginner Gun! Please Look

on e gun for coyotes to elk. if you have the money to go on expensive hunts out of state then i would not scrimp on the rifle. 6.5 -284 savage 111, sendero in 25-06 or .264mag or get an sps varmint in or .243 and borrow an elk rifle if you go.

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It is .275 and Larger.

which to my knowledge takes out the 270. family due to there bullets being .277. I am trying to call and figuring that one out and if so it will be a 270. wsm or winchester.

if not im stuck with 6.5 and smaller.

Whats so good about the Venture. I have heard a lot of mixed things on the vanguards as well.
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Re: Good Beginner Gun! Please Look

Take a hard look at the tikka t 3 lite in 25-06 for a low price and good value. For about 500 you get a nice 2-4 lb adjustable trigger, removable magazine, scope rings, very smooth action and it is light weight. The accuracy guarantee holds up, every one I have owned or shot had been a great shooter. Go to a gun shop that sells tikka and savage, and handle both, cycle the bolts, dry fire them, and I'm sure the choice will be easy.

Get yourself a nikon monarch scope, not a pro staff, and your good to go. If you don't want the tikka rings, get the deadnutz one piece mount.

Now all the savage guys can beat me up, but that is my recommendation for you.
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Old 12-16-2010, 11:37 PM
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It is .275 and Larger.

which to my knowledge takes out the 270. family due to there bullets being .277. I am trying to call and figuring that one out and if so it will be a 270. wsm or winchester.

if not im stuck with 6.5 and smaller.

Whats so good about the Venture. I have heard a lot of mixed things on the vanguards as well.
The only readily available 6.5 factory ammo I am aware of is made for the 260 Remington, 6.5X55 or 264 Win Mag. The Ballistics of the 264 WinMag are pretty impressive, but factory ammo will be much easier to get in 25-06.

I don't know anything about the Venture, but I wouldn't hesitate to try a Sub Moa Weatherby (I believe it's a Vangaurd but not really sure). You can put a timney trigger in the Weatherby.
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I think it would be interesting to grill the game warden on that 275 number, it seems that a guy could interpret that as a 270 is tops or 277 is no go by .003
Generally you think of the limits in 25 or 270 or 30 so I know I would want to get that nailed down. No worries about MT you can hunt with any cal!! If you can a 270 WSM would be top of the list!!!
If not the 25-06 will do just fine as long as you shoot the right bullet and put it in the right spot in a range that bullet will do it work, my dad took a nice cow elk this year with a 250-3000AI and it was just as dead just as fast as with a 338RUM!!
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Go to a gun shop that sells tikka and savage, and handle both, cycle the bolts, dry fire them, and I'm sure the choice will be easy.

Now all the savage guys can beat me up, but that is my recommendation for you.
I've actually do that a couple times a month and have yet to get a Tikka, everyone raves about them so I feel I should give one a try but then I feel up a Savage and I just can't put it down!! One of these day's though a Tikka will jump in the truck without me seeing it
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