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Old 12-16-2010, 11:54 AM
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Good Beginner Gun! Please Look

My younger brother has been hunting for about 4 years now with my old man and myself and he wants to go out and get a rifle. He is in the midst of getting his licence so we are reasching now before we go out to get one. He was given an old 30-06 which neither me or him like (Remington 742 Woodsmaster) which he will be selling to help fund for the new rifle. He is looking for a cheap gun that will shoot. This season coming up looks as if we will be going to Montana for a possible elk, whitetail or mule deer hunt. Then finish off the season with a Northern Ontario Whitetail Hunt. This rifle will have to be able to harest all animals listed. This gun will also be needed to hunt coyotes. It will be a gun used often on coyotes, very often.

I was thinking of the 25-06 would be a good place to start. Where i live and will be coyote hunting, the law states that anything over .275 cal and bigger can not be used. So that limits us to a 6.5 cal and down. The 25-06 ammo around us is a little hard to find and drives will have to be 25 mins to get ammo which isn't the biggest deal cause i can reload for it but my brother is more intersted in factory. He wants something my hunting party/friends dont really own. He would like factory ammo not reloaded. something cheap but reliable.

what i came up with was the Savage Edge chambered in a 25-06. What is your opinions on this set up? any other suggestions?
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Old 12-16-2010, 12:41 PM
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Re: Good Beginner Gun! Please Look

If i was after a bolt action on a budget, i'd go straight for the T/C Venture. They now offer it in 25-06 .. And put a Nikon ProStaff of Buckmaster scope on it... Dont know if i'd chase an elk with a 25-06 though... just my 2cents
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Old 12-16-2010, 05:03 PM
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Re: Good Beginner Gun! Please Look

if you are limited to a .257 or smaller than even the 6.5mm is off limits because it is a .264 caliber and therefore larger than the 25-06. Why will they not allow anything larger? Seems odd to me. I would agree with the above mentioned. I would not use a 25-06 on elk even though many have. That comes from one who owns a 25-06 and loves it. I would look into the venture as well or a stevens. I would steer clear of the edge or axis as it is now called.
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Old 12-16-2010, 06:38 PM
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Re: Good Beginner Gun! Please Look

if you are limited to .275 or smaller, you have lots of options: the .270 family, .257, 25.06, etc. For a budget there are several options as well. Depends on what kind of budget. you can get a weatherby vanguard in .257 weatherby magnum for approx $400. You also have lots of options with Savage as mentioned above. I've read about, but not shot, the Marlin X7 and it has received some praise for a $400 gun. Good luck!
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Old 12-16-2010, 07:00 PM
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Re: Good Beginner Gun! Please Look

Here is another vote for the T/C Venture in 25-06. It has a 24" barrel, adjustable trigger, bolt as slick as butter, pretty good composite stock and they flat out shoot. As for factory ammo when you put Elk in the mix he had better be a good shot and place the bullet in the heart and lungs and stay away from bone and use Federal Premium Vital-Shok Nosler 115 gr Partition ammo. You can order it from Midway. This is a great all round for everything bullet. If he is just going to shoot deer most of the 115 to 120 gr bullet loads will do just fine. The best killer for me on deer has been the 117 Sierra in my handloads. Federal loads this in their Premium Vital -Shok 117 Sierra GameKing SP BT and Midway list it also.
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Old 12-16-2010, 07:39 PM
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Re: Good Beginner Gun! Please Look

I would lean towards the .270 win or 270WSM, 110-130 grain loads for Yotes, 150 grain for big game. Overkill for yotes, but so are the .25 cals.

Lots of good choices for a $325-$400 rifle with reputation for tight groups- Weatherby Vangard, TC Venture, Marlin XL-7, Savage edge, would be my choices in that order. For a little more money the Tikka's are real tight shooters.

If you don't reload, stick with the 270win or 25-06.

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Old 12-16-2010, 08:02 PM
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Re: Good Beginner Gun! Please Look

If he cant use .275 or bigger.... wouldnt that knock out the WHOLE 270 family? .277??? But allow the 6.5 (264) since last time i checked.... is smaller than .275.... just sayin.............
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