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Re: Future H.A.T B.C. Test shoot

That looks like a great line up. Would be really cool to get some 30 cal GS HV 177's in there.

I wonder if the 338 Bergers will be ready...

Dont forget to take pics of the bullets side by side
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    Re: Future H.A.T B.C. Test shoot

    30 Cal: - standard bearer 210 grain Berger VLD
    ZA 175 or 240 grain
    HAT weights undetermined (hopefully medium and heavy)
    Predator weights undetermined (hopefully medium and heavy)

    338 -standard bearer 300 grain Sierra or Lapua
    ZA 5.8 caliber - 300 grain (6.5 or 7.0 caliber weight undetermined )
    HAT - 265 grain
    Predator weights undetermined (hopefully medium and heavy)
    GS Custom 295gr & 232 grain
    Hooker weights undetermined (hopefully medium and heavy)
    Lehigh weights undetermined (hopefully medium and heavy)

    375 - standard bearer 350 grain Sierra
    ZA weights undetermined (6.0 or 6.5 caliber in length)
    HAT weights undetermined (hopefully medium and heavy)
    Predator weights undetermined (hopefully medium and heavy)
    GS Custom weights undetermined
    Hooker weights undetermined (hopefully medium and heavy)
    Rocky Mountain weights undetermined (hopefully medium and heavy)
    Lehigh weights undetermined (hopefully medium and heavy)


    50 Cal - standard bearer...Lapua N or Hornady AMAX
    ZA weights undetermined (5.5 and 6.0 calibers - 931 grains)
    Predator weight undetermined


    SHOOTERS
    Dave Viers has volunteered to shoot 30 Cal standard bearer and 375 cal. In 375, he is planning to shoot a 375 ZA 6.0 or 6.5 caliber length, and a standard bearer 350 grain sierra.

    Steve Damron is going to shoot 30 cal predator bullets (weight unknown); 338 Predator (weight unknown), and 375 Predator (weight unknown)

    If my 338 L.M. Improved is finished in time, I will be shooting a 338 standard bearer 300 grain sierra or Lapua (if Cory cannot), as well as the GS Custom 295 grain, GS Custom 232 grain, and a ZA 6.5 and potentially 7 caliber in length.

    Eddybo has volunteered to shoot 338 HAT 265 grains

    Cory Trapp has potentially committed to shoot 338 standard bearer, as well as the ZA 5.8 caliber (approximately 300 grains), possibly GS Custom 338.

    Ryan McMillan has potentially committed to shoot ZA 50 cal and possibly Predator 50 cal.



    Will we have any Berger 338, 300 grain...I have no idea.


    We have NO DATE YET. I WILL LET YOU KNOW WHEN WE DO. One of our team is STILL OUT OF THE COUNTRY. Until he returns, we will NOT have a date.


    Cartridges for firing standard bearer bullets. We are not compelling anyone to shoot anything, including standard bearer bullets. We do not need them for our testing, so if no one is planning on shooting them they will not be included in the tests.

    We are not compelling anyone to shot any specific cartridges for the bullets that they test. If you shoot, like Eddybo, a big magnum, then you better be ready to shoot out a long way, and bring lots of ammo to get there. My current round count for each bullet is right at 65 rounds, but that may varry and is still a VERY ROUGH NUMBER.

    Round count and distances shot. We are going to try, if possible, to take all of the bullets to subsonic velocities and see how they react to the transition from sonic to subsonic as far as accuracy. If they shoot beyond the distance of our range, then we can't do that portion of the test. For example, if your 338AM is potentailly capable of shooting 3,000 yards+ then we are not going to start you at 1,500 yards for testing. You may start at 1,800 or posssibly even at 2,200 yards. With the number of bullets that we are testing, and the number that will be shot at each distance (5), this is going to be a LONG DAY, followed very likely by ANOTHER LONG DAY in the desert for testing.

    But then again its still evolving, and will continue to do so as the numbers and type of bullets that will be tested changes. So give me your feedback and we'll see what we can do to accomodate your wants and desires into our testing protocols.

    Jeff
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    Re: Future H.A.T B.C. Test shoot

    Wow, Jeff. Thanks for all your work here. I'd love to be able just to watch that and meet all you guys, but comittments otherwise won't allow it at this juncture. It will be very interesting to see the result of all this labor.
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    Jeff,

    Here is what i am planning on bringing and shooting.

    30 BTAC Long Range Pistol 8 twist barrel 20"
    210 gn HAT bullets


    375 Snipetac rifle Gain twist barrel 16" start, 7.75" ending 31"bbl
    350 Sierra Match Kings
    350 Predator solids
    370 Montana jacketed alum tipped
    ZA bullets
    I can test other types if needed, but loading these big cases is spendy, so if
    there are any other bullets they need to be sent to me for range tests and load work.


    Dave
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    Steve from Dynamic Research (predator bullets) will be using the following:

    300 win mag
    176 Predator solids

    338 Lapua mag
    235 Predator solids

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    Re: Future H.A.T B.C. Test shoot

    Jeff, I'm sorry if I missed it (this thread is getting long), but what sort of equipment was going to be used to measure BC's?
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    Re: Future H.A.T B.C. Test shoot

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    That looks like a great line up. Would be really cool to get some 30 cal GS HV 177's in there.

    I wonder if the 338 Bergers will be ready...

    Dont forget to take pics of the bullets side by side

    Berger 300's........................

    I just read a post on 24hrcampfire.com, where one of the Berger "Ballisticians" told the forum guys that he expects the Berger 300 to be ready in March or April. Not sure if we can bank on that, but let's hope!!!!

    Kelly
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    Re: Future H.A.T B.C. Test shoot

    Jon.

    I will let the SAAB represenative answer details on the design, and function, of their LOMAH (Location Of Miss And Hit) system. He should be available at the end of this month.

    I can tell you this much; it senses velocity, and x-y coordinates, of any supersonic object which passes through a dual plane, twelve foot diameter, acoustic lobe. We will be setting the equipment up at the target points once we have calibrated it with a secondary chronometer located at the firing point.

    It will tell us definitively, not only ballistic coefficients, but where projectiles go subsonic. The dispersion on the physical target, beyond the supersonic range, will yield an excellent data set on the transsonic capabilities of all of the test entrys.

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