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Old 05-14-2003, 01:20 AM
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FNG with a lot of questions

Please help me. I am an old dog (actually an old retired US Marine) trying to learn some new tricks.

I need to exterminate some Alabama wild hogs that I can no longer get close to and since I am new to LRH I need some advice.

My rifle is built on a Win Classic CRF ss action with a magazine length aprox 3.02" and is .300 WSM. My barrel is very near 26" measured from the face of the action and is a 5R 1:11.27 twist. I have 2 scopes: IOR 2.5-10x 42mm illuminated MP8 in standard IOR tactical rings and a 16x 42mm MP8 in double width rings, and IOR 20 moa base. I got a Choate U.S. stock just to get it out in time for last deer season and decided not to order the McMillan after 1 bench session.

Considering my twist rate, what bullet would be best for wild hogs and whitetail and could also be used for elk? The hogs are generally well under 350 lbs. Those 600 lbs boars only exist in some mighty tall tales.

My rifle does best at 600 yds with SMK moly 190 and Speer moly 168, sub 2" when I go out with my attitude and environmentals correct. The SMK 175 is almost as good. Would the SMK 200 be likely to shoot with my twist barrel?

Should I even bother to try the new Accubond, if I can ever get any? It's length is reputed to be 1.480", BC .588.

Has anyone here used Bergers on game? I did not get any but Berger info says at least the 190 VLS should shoot. A 1:12 twist is recommended for the 190 and 1:11 for the 210 VLD.

Many thanks in advance for any help you can give.
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Old 05-14-2003, 03:10 AM
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Re: FNG with a lot of questions

There's no way I'd use a Berger on a hog! The jacket is way too thin.

I'd use a tough bullet. My first choice would be a Barnes 180gr XLC flat base bullet. It should shoot better than the boat tail and will probably go at right round 3200-3250 fps out of your barrel length. This is the first bullet I'd try. The second would be the Accubond 200gr.

You can try the 220gr SMK in the twist you have, it will probably do well too, but I'd be out to about 400-500 yards before I let one fly on a good size hog. The velocity will be down and it won't be so hard on the bullet, but it has the weight to do the job.

I hear them hogs are tougher than hell!

My dad is getting 3275 fps average with a 180gr Nosler Ballistic Silvertip in his 11 twist 27.5" bbl 300WSM. Almost one hole groups with RL19 too.
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Old 05-14-2003, 07:47 AM
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Re: FNG with a lot of questions

Ruff, Where you from in Alabama? I live in Eufaula, and would be happy to help you with your "problem"! I know some farmers down here with the same problem. As for bullets, I think the MK would be fine at the longer ranges your talking about.
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Old 05-14-2003, 08:28 AM
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Re: FNG with a lot of questions

Ruff welcome to the board. If you really want to put those NASTY OLD HOGS down get it touch with S1 about some of the PRL 200gr DRT's [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img]. I'm going to be getting some real soon for the same purpose.
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Old 05-14-2003, 12:17 PM
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Re: FNG with a lot of questions

Ruff... What range will you be shooting hogs and elk? 11.25 has no problem stabilizing most 200's and 210's.
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Old 05-14-2003, 12:27 PM
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Re: FNG with a lot of questions

Sam heeard that your e-mail was down, again how are those PRL packaged, count wise for the 200's and the 103's?
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Old 05-14-2003, 01:06 PM
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Re: FNG with a lot of questions

RuffHewn, welcome to the site. "nice" problem to have. You certainly have the hardware to do the job.

I am a big fan of the Hornady line of bullets and have had wonderful success with the SST 165gr bullet in my WBY, Gibbs, and '06. Either this or the 180gr bullet will work on any of your targets from off the muzzle to 1000yds (not sure how far you need to go).

The BC of these bullets is very high (similar to the 190gr to 200gr class of MK)and they will still expand at low impact vel. Since impact vel is rarely going to exceed 3000fps, the bullet will stay together for broadside and quartering shots (not a Texas heart shot guy).

As to accuracy, I have shot them into the .1's at 100yds and 1/3MOA at long range (650yds).

If you decide to give these a try, seat these bullets close the lands or just on. I have had the most success seating them this way.

I suspect that H4530 or H4831SC would be great powders for your WSM.

Good luck...Wish I was closer to lend you a hand.


PS I would mount the variable IOR. 10X is plenty of mag and the lower mag will help find and spot the animals.
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