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Old 06-26-2011, 06:49 PM
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Flinching because of muzzle breaks

Does anyone else feel that muzzle breaks (especially on small calibers) add to the perceived recoil? How about flinching due to that blast that comes back every time we fire?

I know the measureable recoil is less with a break, but there's something about that "slap in the face" that I feel when shooting a hot high velocity round with a break on the barrel that starts to make me flinch and pull shots out of the X.

I didn't know I was doing this until just yesterday. I was at the range with the guy that built one of my rifles. We were evaluating if it was going to shoot like I was expecting/needing it to. He tried a few loads and found one that seemed capable of sub 1/2 minute groups at 200 yds, although it was also a pretty hot load too.

He fired 4 record shots that went 7/8" at 200. Then, I shot 3 that went into 3/8" at 200, but I felt myself pull the 4th, and managed to bring the 5th back in, to finish with 4 of my 5 shots measuring 7/8" at 200. But, by that 5th shot I was feeling myself start to shake just before the trigger broke.

I then moved to another target, still 200 yds, and fired 4 rounds into a crappy 1 1/2" spread. I was trying to remain calm and unaffected, but the shaking just prior to trigger break was there, and I couldn't stop it. It was like my subconcious was in control and didn't want to feel that back blast any more.

We then switched places and he proceeded to shoot 5 into 3/4" with the same load that I just put 1 1/2". I was quite humbled.

Good news, is that this gun in only a 22-250, and it weighs at least 15 lb so I don't have to have the break on, it just helps spot my own shots with a high power scope on prarie dogs.

A suggestion I got was to try double hearing protection, and I do intend on trying that. Anyone else have this problem/issue? Does anyone have any other suggestions??
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Old 06-26-2011, 07:06 PM
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Re: Flinching because of muzzle breaks

Double up on the hearing protection. I use a set of molded-in-ear gel type plugs the custom fit my ear canals. Very effective hearing protection.
In addition, I use a set of electronic ear muffs that activate to protect against gunfire, yet amplify normal decibel noise, such as conversation. If I turn the amplification all the way up, I can still hear conversation - while still receiving the additional protection from the ear damaging and flinch causing, slaps of gunfire.

That's my best advice and recommendation.
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Old 06-26-2011, 07:28 PM
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Re: Flinching because of muzzle breaks

I would put a different break on if you are getting slapped in the face. There are quite a few breaks that direct it away from your face.
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Old 06-26-2011, 07:30 PM
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Re: Flinching because of muzzle breaks

Yes I have flinched anticipating the "blast" from a muzzle break. Even as the spotter. As phorwath points out, doubling the ear protection helps with the noise. Dropping bullet weight helps with the recoil. For me there is an element of the blast by itself that I have to acknowledge and focus on.
Curious, with winter being what it's been have you been shooting from under cover a bunch. Our 100 yard range is covered, our 200 is not. It's really noticeable for me with a covered firing point. Maybe it's developed a bit over winter and like beating your head on a wall it "felt" different when you quit so you noticed.
Sounds a little too support group-Hi I'm Carl and I flinch, but I got rid of a .41 mag 4 5/8" years ago as I couldn't stand practicing with it under cover.
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Old 06-26-2011, 08:07 PM
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Re: Flinching because of muzzle breaks

Thanks for the replies folks.

Does kinda feel like a support group thing, LoL

Phorwath, so if I am understanding you correctly, you wear foam plugs and decibal cuttoff muffs?

I was even jumping some when standing 5 to 6 feet directly behind the gun and looking through the spotting scope When standing off to the side a little and still behind the rifle, I was feeling the air slap my feet/legs too.

It's a Vias brake, and the loads were definately hot. It barked way louder than factory ammo IMO. We were only shooting 50 grn bergers, but I would guess the velocity to be somewhere around 4000'/sec (just based on a previous load that gave 3920'/sec and less muzzle blast). The design of the Vias looks like it would direct gasses laterally and not backwards at all, but I sure was noticing it behind the rifle, shooting and spotting both.

Oh, no.....we weren't under cover and I haven't shot under a cover at all for at least about 8 years now.
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Old 06-26-2011, 08:27 PM
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Re: Flinching because of muzzle breaks

I try to go to the range early and shoot by myself, this helps, and others because my break blows papers off benches close. I wear double ear protection. Our benches are covered and I try to get to front of bench and get blast out from overhang
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Re: Flinching because of muzzle breaks

I've never been accused of being normal but I love the feeling of shooting a gun with a brake. I also love the smell of the burnt gun powder getting throwed back at ya. Just me though. I will have to give a shout out to Jim see his brake is the best about protecting the shooter from the blast. I've shot about every brake made and his is by far the most shooter freindly.


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