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Old 12-03-2008, 12:03 PM
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explosive bullet for deer

i spent the whole day yesterday trying to run my wounded deer passed a gun to bring it down. the small deer was shot in the front shoulder quartering-to, with a 30-06 180gr roundnose bullet. the bullet didnt expand at all, and there was zero blood. it was dragging its one front foot, and i would assume it broke the shoulder. the load was plenty stout with 66gr acc magpro. im pretty disgusted. ive used 95gr B-tips in the 243 and 243ai for many years along with pistol bullets in the muzzleloader. never had a deer go more than a few steps. i have 110% confidence in the 243 as the best deer gun around, and i need some help with this "big gun"


id really like to hear what some of your opinions are for a light, fast bullet that will stay together at hot 30-06 velocity's. at the moment, i have a few 125 b-tips loaded up with 58gr varget. they provide the expansion i want. i have no trouble hitting them where i want, and i dont want to feel the need to shoot for a bone just so my junk bullet will expand and hope to break enuf limbs so the thing cant run to the next county...

is the 125 b-tip heavy enuf for deer? its 30% heavier than the bullets we typically use on deer, and its going about the same speed, or maybe a bit faster. for a lung shot on a 100-125 lb deer, would there be a better bullet? would one of the barnes bullets work as well or better? i dont have shooting oppurtunities farther than 250 yards around here. i just want instant kills like with the 243

thanks in advance

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Old 12-03-2008, 12:14 PM
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Re: explosive bullet for deer

I knew a guy who used 125BT in a 300 Wby mag @4000fps...he kept his shots out to 300+ yards, but they would smack the krap out of deer and hogs. I would think they would do fine...in a 270 the 130gr bullet is norm, so I don't see why it wouldn't be great for average hunting range deer (80 to 200+ yards).
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Re: explosive bullet for deer

I allways liked the 150 and 165gr blistic tips for the 30/06.

They seemed to have the right speed and performance. and I
never had to look for the deer.

The accubonds in these weights should be great !!!!

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Old 12-03-2008, 12:34 PM
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Re: explosive bullet for deer

IMO, it is hard for a RN bullet to not expand. I would continue looking for the deer and find out where the shot went.

I am not trying to be mean, but if it did not open, an 06 would most likely penetrate the length of the animal. Since you did not mention it being "humped up", the bullet most likely did not hit any guts. That means the bullet hit leg, did not open, went through the heart/lung area without doing anything more than give it a limp.

While stranger things have happened, I bet the bullet did expand but the shot was deflected from your intended shotline or the shot went off course. If you recover the carcass before it gets too stinky you might want to do a quick autopsy.

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PS I prefer higher BC bullets but for short range bang flops with an 06 I used 165 grain RN bullets and they never took a step...unlike spitzers.
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Re: explosive bullet for deer

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I am not trying to be mean, ......


While stranger things have happened, I bet the bullet did expand but the shot was deflected from your intended shotline or the shot went off course. If you recover the carcass before it gets too stinky you might want to do a quick autopsy.

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I was thinking the same thing...

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small deer was shot in the front shoulder quartering-to
I would be willing to bet the bullet hit a bone (shoulder blade) and never entered the chest cavity or hit the from leg, then exited though the brisket.

The wife hit one like that last year and it was a tracking bear...I finally jumped it...third time in heavy timber/brush and finished it with a flury from a tactical AK that I was hog hunting with.
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Re: explosive bullet for deer

Since the Deer was not recovered, how can one make the assumption that the "bullet did not expand" Non expanding bullets will and do kill game very efficiently all the time.

This Deer heart was destroyed by a well placed flat point non expanding bullet from a hangun at about 1380 FPS muzzle velocity





To often a bullet that did not hit the vitails is the culprit, not bad bullet performance
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Re: explosive bullet for deer

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This Deer heart was destroyed by a well placed flat point non expanding bullet from a hangun at about 13800 FPS muzzle velocity


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Man that recoil must be brutal

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