close
Long Range Hunting Online Magazine


Go Back   Long Range Hunting Online Magazine > Rifles, Reloading, Optics, Equipment > Rifles, Bullets, Barrels & Ballistics

Rifles, Bullets, Barrels & Ballistics Applied Ballistics

Reply

The evolution of the hunting bullet

LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #8  
Unread 06-23-2013, 09:58 AM
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Michigan
Posts: 1,124
Re: The evolution of the hunting bullet

Quote:
Originally Posted by Beng View Post
Didn't Lutz Möller start building quite similar bullets a few years ago?
Btw your advertisment is too humble, pls season it with a few more superlatives.
Wow, that's a pretty chippy welcome for a new site sponsor . . . I don't think their marketing is any more ridiculous that most of the other companies marketing (successfully) their toys to guys like me.

I think the concept is a good one on paper (benefits of monolith + energy transfer of traditional). It will be interesting to see if it ends the endless LRH debate on the subject (I'll bet not). Regardless, I'll buy a box to try on game for that reason, and because they sponsor a site where I glean tons of advice from people smarter than me, for free...

Welcome to LRH
Reply With Quote
  •   #9  
    Unread 06-24-2013, 12:37 PM
    Silver Member
     
    Join Date: Sep 2011
    Location: Germany
    Posts: 159
    Re: The evolution of the hunting bullet

    I'm just not very fond of ridiculously exaggerated advertisment, regardless who makes it. Especially the use of the term "revolutionary" pisses me off. The bullets will be probably a nice addition to the short to mid-range bullet market.
    They aren't anything new though, there are a alot of fragmenting bullets on the market.
    If they didn't look like a G1 Projectile with added boat-tail, I'd probably test them.
    Reply With Quote

      #10  
    Unread 06-25-2013, 04:11 PM
    Gold Member
     
    Join Date: Apr 2013
    Location: Norway, Buskerud
    Posts: 576
    Re: The evolution of the hunting bullet

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Beng View Post
    Didn't Lutz Möller start building quite similar bullets a few years ago?
    Btw your advertisment is too humble, pls season it with a few more superlatives.
    Exactly! Moeller started first with copper - bullets (KJG) and went then over to brass - bullets (MJG). Brass = Messing in German (M). Moellers bullets have an enormous reputation in Europe, both for their tremendous and outstanding speed, precision and effect on game. The bullets from Cutting - Edge are looking like, sorry but true, identical copies of Moellers bullets...
    Moellers sides are available on the internet.
    Reply With Quote
      #11  
    Unread 06-25-2013, 06:03 PM
    Silver Member
     
    Join Date: Sep 2011
    Location: Germany
    Posts: 159
    Re: The evolution of the hunting bullet

    The Raptors definatly aren't copies and Möller's reputation is quite contoversely discussed in Germany. His bullets are leadfree and fragmenting though, have plastic tips and he has been selling them for about a decade, maybe even longer.

    Again, no intention on my side to bash CEB in general.
    I just don't like this sort of advertisement, it's just the same exaggeration that got us all the extremly inflated BCs (talking generally, not CEB) we have been seeing until recently.
    Reply With Quote
      #12  
    Unread 06-26-2013, 11:14 AM
    Platinum Member
     
    Join Date: Dec 2008
    Location: rathdrum, id.
    Posts: 5,001
    Re: The evolution of the hunting bullet

    Well, lets give them a chance and then critique the results. I have never been a big proponent of anything but cup and core, and in fact, prefer pure copper and lead, but that doesn't mean everything else stinks. I know, as one who makes bullets, it gets spendy when you start doing anything more than a simple stroke with the bullet press. Tuck is right about a lot of the "old stuff" being as good as what we now have and has been loading even longer than me. I think some of the biggest gains for long range guys like us has been in the b.c. department. What I DO NOT WANT TO HAPPEN is manufacturers starting to put down anything but monos because certain states can only shoot those! I'm not suggesting cutting edge is doing that!.....Rich
    Reply With Quote
      #13  
    Unread 06-26-2013, 01:04 PM
    Platinum Member
     
    Join Date: Apr 2012
    Location: The cold part of Montana
    Posts: 1,391
    Re: The evolution of the hunting bullet

    Any step no matter how small or big in the direction of advancing the tech, be it bullets, powder, primers, or case design ect, is aces in my book. Hell when I started shooting LR lazer rangefinders, wind meters had just hit the market and where way to expensive for the common guy, and you where developing drop cards (that ended up being a book) just for the different conditions, even then much of what we can precisely account for now, was still estimation then. even when a new product hits the market that is little more than an older idea tweeked a little, it's still a step in the right direction. Though there are some things coming out I personally do not agree with, they are inevitable.
    __________________
    Keep in mind the animals we shoot for food and display are not bullet proof. Contrary to popular belief, they bleed and die just like they did a hundred years ago. Being competent with a given rifle is far more important than impressive ballistics and poor shootability. High velocity misses never put a steak in the freezer.

    Joe
    Reply With Quote
    Reply

    Bookmarks

    Thread Tools
    Display Modes



    All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:59 PM.


    Powered by vBulletin ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
    Content Management Powered by vBadvanced CMPS
    All content ©2010-2015 Long Range Hunting, LLC