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Old 05-19-2013, 06:47 PM
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Elk Rifle 270 wsm 300wm 300wsm

I have an opportunity to hunt 8 days in Colorado for elk and mulies come October and this will be a first for me on both animals. I have been getting my fitness in order and evaluating my rifle. To the end of the latter I am down to 3 choices and am having trouble deciding.

I have hunted deer and hogs , yotes etc all my life so I am not new to hunting but when trying to decide on a weapon for animals I have no experience with is really bugging me. My thought is with all the effort, time, money and sacrifice I am putting into the prep and hunt I would certainly hate to be stymied with a bull or mulie hanging out at 500 -600 and not have the energy to put him down quick. This has led me to the 270wsm 300wm and 300wsm.

The issue is that when I look up the ballistic chart for remington on all 3 calibers and read the energy and velocity on paper all three are pretty darn close. The 300 and 300wsm shooting a 180 siracoco is reported to have 1762 and 1790 fpe with the 270wsm having 1748 shooting a 150 gr premier accutip. All of these are for 500yards.

1762, 1790 and 1748 all seem pretty close and if that means that they are then the 270wsm would be the ticket with a lighter overall rifle and less recoil. So am I understanding this right? does the mass of the round play more of an role once its inside the animal with a higher Ke to do the job or are they really all this close that it matters not?
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Old 05-19-2013, 06:50 PM
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Re: Elk Rifle 270 wsm 300wm 300wsm

Let me also add that I do reload and would continue doing so for the caliber chosen.

velocity for the three rounds @ 500yards is 270wsm 2291fps - 300wsm 2116fps - 300wmag 2100fps. Agian it appears the 270wsm has the edge over the others If I understand this correctly.
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Re: Elk Rifle 270 wsm 300wm 300wsm

I'd get a 300 Win Mag shooting a 200gr Accubond loaded hot. . . More mass, more energy, great bullet performance. Probably more recoil and will not shoot as flat though. . .

Any of the 3 I'd try and find a gun with a muzzle brake.
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Old 05-19-2013, 07:58 PM
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Re: Elk Rifle 270 wsm 300wm 300wsm

I have a 300WSM and like it. That said,if I did it over I would go 300WM. I think you get more flexibility in heavier bullet weights, and generally more leeway in OAL vs magazine length (relative to WSMs).

If I intend to shoot past about 350, I quit using flat-shooting as a criteria (within reason). farther than that I'm going to have to dial dope, so as long as I do my job the bullet will do its job.
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Old 05-19-2013, 08:07 PM
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Re: Elk Rifle 270 wsm 300wm 300wsm

300wm shooting 215 gr. Bergers. I can't wait to try it this year. I also have a 270wsm that shoots really well but it will stay at home when I hunt elk this fall.
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Old 05-19-2013, 09:24 PM
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Another vote for the .300 Win Mag loaded with the heaviest bullet your rifle will shoot accurately such as the 200 NAB or the 210/215 Berger VLDs.

If you must go with the .270 WSM, you might want to consider the 165 or 175 VLDs from Matrix, Hopefully, BNG will chime in.

Good luck!
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Old 05-19-2013, 10:06 PM
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Re: Elk Rifle 270 wsm 300wm 300wsm

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I have an opportunity to hunt 8 days in Colorado for elk and mulies come October and this will be a first for me on both animals. I have been getting my fitness in order and evaluating my rifle. To the end of the latter I am down to 3 choices and am having trouble deciding.

I have hunted deer and hogs , yotes etc all my life so I am not new to hunting but when trying to decide on a weapon for animals I have no experience with is really bugging me. My thought is with all the effort, time, money and sacrifice I am putting into the prep and hunt I would certainly hate to be stymied with a bull or mulie hanging out at 500 -600 and not have the energy to put him down quick. This has led me to the 270wsm 300wm and 300wsm.

The issue is that when I look up the ballistic chart for remington on all 3 calibers and read the energy and velocity on paper all three are pretty darn close. The 300 and 300wsm shooting a 180 siracoco is reported to have 1762 and 1790 fpe with the 270wsm having 1748 shooting a 150 gr premier accutip. All of these are for 500yards.

1762, 1790 and 1748 all seem pretty close and if that means that they are then the 270wsm would be the ticket with a lighter overall rifle and less recoil. So am I understanding this right? does the mass of the round play more of an role once its inside the animal with a higher Ke to do the job or are they really all this close that it matters not?
Till you shoot those three rifles your pretty much speculating on your ballistic chart.

When I decide to hunt same season here (Co) on a buck tag and bull tag my choice is for elk rifle and what ever rifle I decide to use is more than enough for my buck tag. It's been little over 10 yrs now that law was changed up till then if you wanted to hunt deer and elk you had to do it same season.

When nephew decide to hunt same season deer/elk I gave him a 300mag and that's rifle he uses when he comes out here. I hunted few years with Broughton barrel 300WSM kind of missed my 30-338mag so I'm back to that.

You got about 5mos to before season starts you should be getting rifle and start reloading now.
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