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effeciency in 14" of barrel

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Unread 01-08-2008, 06:39 AM
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Nobodys going to come kick your door down if your reported for building out of spec guns , yea their are gonna show up and yea it probably won't be to pleasant having all your stuff gone through but keep it legal and ALWAYS copperate if their is any question.

It if your state doesn't have any sanctions on short barreled rifles or silencers , they are perfectly legal to own and the silencers are legal to build AFTER , you have filed and recieved comfermation of the proper paperwork. I'm pretty sure that you have to have a class 3 FFL to built a sub 16" barreled rifle though

Your best bet would be to get in touch with a class 3 dealer in your area and explain what it is that your wanting to do and he will know all the ins and out and can be a huge helpmwith the proper paperwork
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Unread 01-08-2008, 10:15 AM
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legalities aside, if you had a gun with a 16" barrel, and wanted to chamber it for the most effecient cartridge in that length, what would it be? lets pretend we are talkin about a pistol we're huntin deer and black bear out to 250 or so. i will be handloading for it, and could even have it reamed for a different cartridge. maybe even have the option of loading a pistol type bullet at a slower velocity for plinkin little critters...

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Unread 01-09-2008, 12:52 PM
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Regarding the "less than 16" rifle" issue, Stormrider addressed that with his "$200 for the Short Barreled Rifle" (SBR) statement. You simply file a federal Form 1, complete with jumped hoops, pay your money and build it when your *approved form comes back* with "tax" stamp affixed.

I'd second the 7-08 suggestion. I shot a 7-30 Waters in a 16" T/C Contender quite a bit and it worked well. A little more power would have been welcome and the 7-08 will provide that.

If you're eventually going suppressed, and sub-sonic, bullet weight is your friend, and bigger calibers rule in the energy dept. FWIW, any (barely) sub-sonic round is going to have similar drop/drift figures Suppression w/o sub-sonic ammo still yields a pretty good "crack", though still not nearly as load as the report of an unsuppressed CF rifle.

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Unread 01-10-2008, 12:00 PM
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KISS 16.6 inches and call it done...
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Unread 01-12-2008, 11:26 PM
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Nobodys going to come kick your door down if your reported for building out of spec guns...
Tell that to Randy Weaver.
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Unread 01-15-2008, 12:05 AM
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supressed calibers

A few other calibers to consider that arent over the counter but arent that expensive is the 300 whisper, its a 221 fireball with a 30 cal neck size, very quiet and is available off the internet, not as cheap as walmart but very fun to shoot, very accurate. Also I have a 22 hornet in a 14 in contender pistol silenced and that is a blast for varmints.
Ballistically Speaking, Im about a 300 FP with a BC of -1.
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Unread 01-24-2008, 10:43 PM
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Legal. They only way to go!! Why jump through hoops for 2 inches. Go 16 and forget about the rest.
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