Originally Posted by lloydsmalawe
wasnt talking the 257. I was talking about the 240. The 257 has enough more snort that it seems to get the job done better. I have to wonder if the sarcastic few here have ever shot a deer out past 400 yards and if so more then one or two. I spend at least 2 months a year shooting at least one or two a night and sometimes as many as 5. Close shots are 300 yards and many out to 500 plus and ive been doing this for 6 years now. If youve actually killed deer at long range with the 240 then my ears are open to your opinions. As to practice i probably send more lead down range in a month then some here do in a year and up till about 12 years ago i shot high power comp. Maybe a few of you should give the target work a break and actually kill something. Sure didnt start this post to instigate a ******* match. Did it to pass on an experience that might help someone else make a informed opinion on caliber selection for long range DEER hunting. I didnt say the 240 wouldnt kill a deer. All those deer i shot with it are in the freezer. What i said is i found it a bit lacking in power out past 400 yards and am more the willing to listen to someone with REAL life experience thats contrary to mine. Ill have to add that id doubt youd find two many guys that really have that will recomend a 24 or 25 cal barnes bullet for deer out past 500 yards. That would be about your worse choise other thena a solid. There isnt much speed left to even a 257 out that far to insure expansion. The barnes bullets are great for letting a guy with a smaller caliber gun hunt larger species of game at moderate range. But there not great at making small bore guns into 500 yard plus big game rifles. Even some cup and core bullets have expansion problems out that far.
May I ask what bullet and weight you were using in your 25-06?
I have been using the 25-05 for about 25 years now in the exact same ranges you describe, my longest shot to date has been 620yrds on Fallow deer, here in Australia, I use Nosler 110gr Accubonds and 115gr Partitions exclusively. Unless a deer is hit with a high shoulder/spine shot, nearly all run a short distance, although when trying out the Nosler 100gr BT almost any hit within 400yrds was a bang flop, but further out was very iffy and not a good idea, furthermore for the switch to heavier pills. The 115gr Partition is softer than the 110gr Accubond, but the flatter shooting 110 gets the nod with me.
I shoot over strawberry farms, (which poses a bit of a quandary) which are in prime deer country and are quite mountainous outside of the valley floor, we tend to shoot from tree stands and this makes the longer shots easier, but the shots aren't always taken this way. We have 2 deer species in this area, Sambar and Fallow, which run 600+lbs and 300lbs, respectively. Now you can see why we don't always target only one species, but I WILL NOT take the risk of shooting a Sambar stag with a 25-06, UNLESS it's inside 200yrds and presents a PERFECT broadside shot, hinds are a different story nonetheless.
I've never had a deer get away when using the 25-06, but not all drop on the spot, I'm unsure as to what problem you're having, if it's a bullet issue with either the 240 or 25-06, the simple answer is to switch to something more suitable.