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Comparing the Berger 210 VLD to the 215 Hybrid

 
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Old 09-13-2012, 11:08 PM
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Yes,as Tumbleweed stated, this is my problem with your results too. We have numerous kills with the 230's from a 300 win (MV 2775) and all the exit pics that I have already posted showed good expansion and excellent DRT kills on large mule deer and bull elk to 891 yards. I expected the 215's to be similar, so this is why I question water results compared to meat.

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If the .338's have the same thickness of jacket, I would expect better expansion than the same velocity in a .308, but I'm not sure exactly how much?.....
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Old 09-13-2012, 11:13 PM
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OK, so what am I missing here? You just stated the bullets work much better in meat. My point is, I don't really feel a water test is a good one. This is why I built the media box and tested the 300 Berger OTM's at 1200 yards. Now with so many kills from the 300 and 230 OTM's, and 100% one shot kill results, I think I want to see the 215's tested in something more comparable to meat than water before I write them off. Water is not an animal and you said yourself that your bullets worked better in meat.

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I think you misunderstood my point? My bullets hold together better in meat meaning that if this holds true with the Bergers, and they won't expand in water at a given velocity, they won't expand in meat until they reach an even greater velocity. This is where the problem seemed to be in my testing......Rich
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I will be testing them soon. Then I will know. I just hope they kill like all the other Bergers I have used for years. Time will tell. I feel very confident they will be very accurate. Plus you combine that with the great BC and this will all aid in good placement, and placement is at the top of my list for any long range bullet.

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Hey jeff, i got 10 300 grain OTM bullets that i am going to test for low velocity expansion and i am going to shoot a full power load through a 2"-3" piece of hardwood with about 3" of newspaper infront to represent a shoulder shot at close range to see how much penetration i get. But i must say they look SLICK! I'm interested in seeing your results with the 215 grain hybrid on game.

PS: hoping to do a live test on a whitetail doe tomorrow with the 280 grain LRX in the 300-400 yards range.
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OK, so what am I missing here? You just stated the bullets work much better in meat. My point is, I don't really feel a water test is a good one. This is why I built the media box and tested the 300 Berger OTM's at 1200 yards. Now with so many kills from the 300 and 230 OTM's, and 100% one shot kill results, I think I want to see the 215's tested in something more comparable to meat than water before I write them off. Water is not an animal and you said yourself that your bullets worked better in meat.

Jeff
Jeff, looking forward to your 215 hybrid low velocity media box results
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Me too! and I do hope they work well on game because they have the accuracy/b.c. attributes for sure........Rich
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Jeff, looking forward to your 215 hybrid low velocity media box results
Just finishing up a 8 day elk archery hunt with a friend. My butt is dragging. But I have all the rifles done and gone I needed to get out, so next week I hope to work up my 215 load and chrono it. If all goes well these will be used in our Wy antelope hunt this year. If they will expand is a speed goat they sure will in an elk.

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