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Is this common? SMK

 
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Old 08-27-2008, 09:05 PM
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Re: Is this common? SMK

Between pulling the trigger myself and spotting for others I have seen several hundred deer shot with SMK's. Most were with the 168, 175, 190, and 220gr 30cals out of 308's, 300WM's, 300RUM, and a 300
Tomahawk. They work, and most of the time very well, however they can be very unpredictable. Sometimes they yaw very early and fragment violently. Sometimes they will penetrate several inches before upsetting (the vast majority do this in my experience). And sometimes they will penetrate very deeply before they yaw and may or may not expand/fragment.

To give you an idea, here's a visual of what I'm talking about-

(Picture from Dr. Roberts)




The variability between the exact same bullets comes from the tip, or the hollow-point. In the same box of SMK's the opening in the tip has varied from large, to medium, to being almost completely closed due to slivers of copper plugging the hole. This is where the unpredictability comes from.


Here is three deer shot with the same load and gun with similar impact velocity, showing widely varying terminal performance.












Having said that, the only deer that ran was the last and it went about 25 yards I believe.


If it wasn't for AMAX's, SMK's would still be my main bullet for deer, and I would have no qualms about using them again (still use the 220gr in the Tomahawk) however AMAX's and Berger's perform much more consistently in tissue.
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Old 08-27-2008, 11:17 PM
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Re: Is this common? SMK

charles a, what has been your experience with the bergers reaching the target where some brush is involved as compared to the smk?

ive also been using smks for many years in my 30x378. i also have been using pre amax 162 bthp match hornadys in my 7x300wby for many years. neither is considered to be a hunting bullet. a dead deer is a dead deer, so im not about to change. im not into doing post mortums to see how the bullet performed. dead is good enough for me.
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Old 08-28-2008, 08:59 AM
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Re: Is this common? SMK

Exactly---how dead does something need to be..

Will be using the 250 SMK in my 338 Slowpoke in 3 weeks in New Mexico hopefully killing a 350 class elk on the Apache Reservation..
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Old 08-28-2008, 09:10 AM
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well good luck on the elk. most importantly enjoy yourself in case the elk dosent work out for you.
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Old 08-28-2008, 09:34 AM
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Thanks---will post some pics when I get back...
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Re: Is this common? SMK

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charles a, what has been your experience with the bergers reaching the target where some brush is involved as compared to the smk?

Can't say I shoot through brush....
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Old 08-28-2008, 12:11 PM
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Re: Is this common? SMK

I wonder if you were to uniform the meplat of the smk what the terminal performance would be then. It sounds like the inconsistant expansion is comming from there.
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