Re: Come on bullet makers!!!
Originally Posted by load
I mean really! when the heck are bullet makers going to make a really good 30 cal projectile?
Dont get me wrong the h 208 and b 210 are good and can shoot past a mile even in 300 wm however they do not bring out the full potential of the 30's! smks really are not a vld design and don't preform as such (still a good bullet) but what I/we as long range shooters really need is a secant ogive bullet like the burger 210 and hornady 208 with a bearing surface that makes jump easier to deal with! something in the 225 to 230 range would be premium! It should have just as high or slightly higher bc than the 240smk but still get better volocity!
Enouph catering to the pansy little cals or the over bored big daddies and build one for the all American favorite the .308!!!!!
I maybe off base here but I am not sure how much more bullet weight the 308 can handle than the 208. You cannot get enough powder in a 308 to make anything heavier than a 208 have any significant velocity. At least not enough to make the higher BC worth while. If the 308/208 AMAX isnt enough for you then you should most likely be looking to another cartridge. The 308/208 combo is nothing to sneeze at as it is.
My idea of a perfect 308 winnie bullet is 175-190 grains with a .6 to .625 BC that will expand on game as low as 1400 FPS and hold together on a shoulder shot at 2800 FPS. A 190 with a .625 BC would be about the best overall balanced bullet between speed and BC. Typically from a 26" barrel a 190 can be driven any where from 2600-2750+ with the right powder. Even at that, the 190 with a .625 BC would only have a very small benefit in wind and energy over the 208. The real difference here would be a combo near that of the 308/208 with a bit less recoil and a bullet that will hold together a bit better at close range.
Kind of sounds like the 177 GS bullet except I cannot bring myself to believe that the published BC is any where near reality and I would need a new barrel to stabilize it. I would gladly get a new barrel if I thought the BC was close.
Long range shooting is a process that ends with a result. Once you start to focus on the result (how bad your last shot was, how big the group is going to be, what your buck will score, what your match score is, what place you are in...) then you loose the capacity to focus on the process.