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Chronograph woes!

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Unread 08-16-2012, 12:55 PM
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Re: Chronograph woes!

Originally Posted by Lefty7mmstw View Post
I love my 35p, I'd buy the oehler (at 2x price)

I feel the same and I would still be money ahead if I did it first. Seems the guys that actually own the Oehlers are happy with them.

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Unread 08-16-2012, 11:02 PM
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Re: Chronograph woes!

Originally Posted by Trickymissfit View Post
that's exactly what I'm trying to say. Just because one reads different than the other dosn't mean that it's reading is off. If you have an extra $500 then buy the Ohler, but if your frugal then buy what suits your needs. I can set mine up in ten minutes max and be shooting while it takes the guy with the Ohler four times that to get going (at ranges they don't like this very well unless your the only guy shooting).
I can't argue with anyone about chronographs but I have know plenty of guys that bought cheep
and later regretted it and ended up buying and Oehler and they haven't looked back and there are
still the old 33s functioning well (20 or 30 years later).

The prof channel makes the difference to me because it will show any discrepancy If one screen fails
to record the bullet correctly.(Normally there is 5 to 10 ft/sec loss between the two screens).

I have mine set up with the screens evenly spaced and don't change them. This makes the velocity
between the two channels remain consistant from one use to the next. and setup is very fast.

It is like having two chronographs, and this eliminates using a false indication because if the spread
from one channel to the next is very far apart it gives an error message and if you dont have the
prof channel you might not catch this and use the data and have it effect the overall report and skew
the data.

They make several other lab models that can tell you chamber and velocity at POI not just near
the muzzle. I wish I could justify buying one of these but they are much higher priced.

Once I started using all the features and data my reloading cost was cut 75 to 80%.

The only chronograph that I didn't like to shoot through and did not trust was the shooting chrony
because with the computer directly under the screens and the spacing between them, It was not
unsual to alter readings with muzzle blase, and one poorly placed shot (Through the chrony) and
the jig was up.

I am sure the other chronographs are good but I prefer and trust the Oehler above all others.

So a person should buy what they want and live with there decision.

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Unread 08-17-2012, 12:22 AM
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Re: Chronograph woes!

Originally Posted by Broz View Post
I feel the same and I would still be money ahead if I did it first. Seems the guys that actually own the Oehlers are happy with them.

I had an old 33 that was great and I would still be using it but Clinton decided that service members should pay for their own transfers so I had to come up with $$ quick and it was one of the things to go. I see a 35P in my future!

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Unread 08-17-2012, 12:47 AM
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Re: Chronograph woes!

Not to beat a dead horse...but my 4th and last chrono is a 35P.

I think there are a couple realities on why the 35P isn't in everyone's gear box.

1. They are spendy considering other choices.
2. Not many are discerning enough to actually realize/appreciate the benefit from having a consistent/precise projectile chrono.

I can appreciate both of the statements above, having been there.

When you get it, and use it for a while...you will have one of those moments wishing you'd bought it first....just likeBroz and others have posted.

Maybe you've done a task on a vehicle, with less than the right tool....then later, done the same task with the right tool, in 10% of the time with no cuss words? And you ask yourself....why in the farckle didn't I get this tool years ago?

This is like that moment...it's the best tool for the job....if the job involves consistent/precise velocity measurement.

Not having to worry about the warrany, IF you should have something come up like JE Custom did...that experience alone ought to persuade folks to just select an Oehler just on post purchase customer support.

Good luck and good shooting.
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Unread 08-17-2012, 08:45 AM
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Re: Chronograph woes!

Lifetime Warranties... I've got a problem with them. They're usually not reasonable. All warranties are only as good as the company behind them. Nothing lasts forever (except God's promises) and most things don't last a lifetime including the company that sells them. Most companies are banking that they'll be so huge that they can cover the incidental claim or the product is collecting dust in a closet and will never see the light of day again. Companies offering these great warranties can go out of business in a couple of years. As you've experienced, designs change and old models become obsolete. It's isn't reasonable to replace a complete unit because of a faulty .10 cent part. Companies shouldn't offer them and Customers shouldn't be swayed into a purchasing decision by them. One of these days, even Craftsman Tools will go out of business and that Lifetime Warranty will be useless. If you like Pact's, I'd take the discount if they'll ever send it. If they don't have one in stock, maybe they'd be willing to get one from a retailer and replace it later.

I've shot out sensors and busted sky screens on my Pact and they got them out to me in reasonable time.
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Unread 08-17-2012, 09:25 AM
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Re: Chronograph woes!

My dad and I have and use a CED M2. When it works, which is about 90% of the time, it works flawlessly. The other 10% of the time it can be a temperamental pain in the ass and we even bought the IR screens to help eliminate that. CED has "ok" at best customer service. I've dealt with better and I've certainly dealt with much worse. Of the less expensive units I would say the CED M2 is the better chronograph.

Having said this, to do all over again, I would go Oehler 35 and never look back and considering I'm a little OCDish about having things "right" I most likely will have one in the near future.

IMO, the CED M2 is a good product, it's just not a great product.
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Unread 08-17-2012, 09:36 AM
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Re: Chronograph woes!

Originally Posted by B23 View Post
I'm a little OCDish about having things "right"
That is an understatement in my case
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