choosing a new rifle

[backcountryj.laf]

I'm looking into a new hunting rifle but since i built a .243 that shoots 1/4 inch groups last year my interests have changed.

I'm looking for a .270 caliber or larger rifle that will shoot in the neighborhood of 1/2 moa groups out to 600 yards. I've wanted a 270 weatherby for ever but i'm not sure it has the same appeal as it once did.

I already have a 300 win mag but it's .9 inch groups don't excite me any more. I guess what i really want is a hunting style rifle that shoots tight. I'm well aware that this is a really vague question but i'm looking for peoples responses to try and guide my purchase. Rifles i'm considering right now are the sendero in 300 win or 300 ultra mag. The weatherby accumark in .270 wby or 300 wby ( i really like the action, not sure about the accuracy of the cartridges) I'm also interested in the kimber and nosler rifles but here in canada they are tought to come by. I know that they Tikka's shoot well but i've had problems loading for my buddy's rifle because when the bullets are seated out they won't fit in the magazine and with berger vld's you can't even eject a loaded round.

Any insight or suggestion would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

[Booney]

out of those. The 300rum is by far the best decision.

[RugerM77.270]

Take a look at Sako.They have a MOA garuntee.

[landcbeitner]

My vote is 7WSM. I also have a really accurate custom 243 and have since built a 7wsm and I just love it. It's not quite as accurate as my 243 at 600yds but 1/2 MOA is no problem with either rifle. It beats the 243 at 1000yds unless conditions are very consistant... then it's a toss up.

[BountyHunter]

With the factory guns and barrels it is all a roll of the dice if you want anything close to .5 MOA.

Some will make it, but dang few as a norm. Do not believe the "once in a lifetime 3 shot group one hole group" that always shows up on the internet. At BR central, they have had standing bets for a .25 factory gun to shoot in the short range BR matches and agg .25 for five shot groups and no one has won any money yet.

If I had to try for consistent "tight" in a factory, I would go with heavy barrel savages and for hunting in the 300 WSM. In fact take the Savage 308 FTR for $925 and rechamber to WSM for another $150 and $20 for another bolt head. Comes with 30" barrel so you can leave it or cut it off to 26". The savages have a much better track record in the accuracy dept over the stock Remingtons.

In reality, you are really talking a custom gun in my opinion in a variety of calibers to include the 270 weatherby. You would be money ahead and happier to rebarrel you 300 Win with a custom barrel and proper bedding and trigger tuning. Dan Lilja shot dynamite shoots at 1000 plus yards with a 270 weatherby so it can shoot.

Also, even then it is a matter of your reloading and bench skills, regardless of how accurate the gun is "capable of".

BH

[Booney]

The problem with the wsm is the barrel hop is outrageous. I have a 300rum stock and I am shooting 2.5 in groups at 600 yard for the money and the performance you can not beat it.

[LewisH]

Weatherby Vanguard SUB-MOA 7 Mag would be a good choice. I prefer the 7STW, but this rifle is not currently chambered for the 7 STW.