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Old 12-26-2010, 11:36 AM
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Choosing a caliber for "short" long ranges

Hey everyone, new member here.
I whitetail hunt, and I wanted to increase my effective range to what I thought was long, but after reading on here, what is long to me is a chipshot for some of you
I hunt alot of fields, and I would like to increase my effective range to about 400 yds. That would cover 99% of shots I would have. But I would like the cartridge to have the potential to be a 500 yard killer if I ever am able to hunt big open land, and invest the time and money to increase my range to that.
I am am thinking about the 30/06. There are several reasons. One, I dont handload, and there are many factory choices avaliable. Two, I dont own a .30 cal, and I feel like I am missing something by not owning a classic.
So I guess my questions are:
1) Is the 30/06 capable of accuracy and enough energy to kill 250lb+ whitetails under 500 yds?
2) What factory loads would be good choices to start testing?
3) I am thinking about a Savage 116 Weather Warrior. I am not much of a gunsmith yet, so I think a gun that comes with a decent stock and good trigger would be a good choice to start with.
I'd really appreciate any info or advice.
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Old 12-26-2010, 12:15 PM
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Re: Choosing a caliber for "short" long ranges

Yes a 30-06 will do what you want it to do. A good 165 gr hunting bullet like the Nosler Ballistic Tip is what you want. Federal Premium loads this bullet. You will have to learn the drop and will have to adjust your scope for 300 to 500 yard shots. I would sight in the rifle to hit 3 inches high at 100 yards. This will put you between 4 and 5 inches low at 300 yards. You should be able to hold in the center of the front shoulder on a buck from point blank out to 300 yards and kill him. For longer ranges you will need to dial the scope. You will have to do a lot of practice shooting at the longer ranges to see what your dial up will have to be and to see what the wind does to the bullet in different conditions. Past 300 yards you better take note of the wind or you will miss or put a bad shot on a deer. Practice makes perfect.
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Old 12-26-2010, 08:11 PM
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Re: Choosing a caliber for "short" long ranges

I agree with 25-06 on his suggestions. One thing to consider though; if you are like most of us and quiclkey get the long range bug, you might outgrow the '06 in a hurry. Just something to think about......Rich
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Old 12-27-2010, 08:17 AM
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Re: Choosing a caliber for "short" long ranges

I agree with the advice above. The 30-06 will be more than enough cartridge for your plans.

Other considerations, if you think you may want to "grow into" this gun for other long range uses, are the .300 WM, or one of the 7mm cartridges. The 284 win or 7mm Rem Mag may be options for you.
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Old 12-27-2010, 12:09 PM
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Re: Choosing a caliber for "short" long ranges

For 500 yard whitetail I'd look at a 270 or 25-06 myself, but would inquire from those with more experience with these cartridges, never having owned one myself. I like the low recoil, and paper ballistics, but I'm currently managing an infatuation with the 270 and 25-06. I'd like to add both to my safe. They don't have the greatest selection of high BC bullets, but seem fine for 500 yards. These seem to be the best magnums based on non-magnum cases (however that saying goes ).

I chose the 300 Win Mag for 400, 500, & 600 yards but I also hunt elk and mule deer. My alternate choice would be a 338 Win Mag. I just can't get excited about an 06 myself, but certainly respect anyone who chooses to use one and can't fault them for it.
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Old 12-27-2010, 12:22 PM
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Re: Choosing a caliber for "short" long ranges

If you already had a rifle chambered in 30-06 I would say, "Yes, that will work.". As you are looking to buy a rifle, I would suggest a better cartridge for the job you have planned. Velocity is your friend as soon as you pass 200 yards as increasing velocity means less drop at any range. Fast cartridges are more forgiving when you may be off a little in range estimation.

For deer to 500 yards, my choices would be: .270 WSM, 7mm WSM, 7mm Rem mag, and possibly either a .300 WSM or .300 Win mag. The first three are ideal for these ranges and either the .300 Win or WSM would also do the job well. As you get better any of these could also take a deer to 800 yards, if rifle, scope, and shooter are up to that. (Weatherby cartridges from .270 through .300 would also handle this job well but ammunition is more expensive & harder to find.)

I would suggest you ignore the "ultra-mags" as what you have planned doesn't justify the weight, cost, noise & recoil of an ultra-mag.

There are people who will hunt deer at 500 yards with a .308, .270 Win, or .30-06, but I would not consider those "the best" choices for deer at that range.
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Old 12-27-2010, 12:28 PM
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Re: Choosing a caliber for "short" long ranges

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For 500 yard whitetail I'd look at a 270 or 25-06 myself, but would inquire from those with more experience with these cartridges, never having owned one myself. I like the low recoil, and paper ballistics, but I'm currently managing an infatuation with the 270 and 25-06. I'd like to add both to my safe. They don't have the greatest selection of high BC bullets, but seem fine for 500 yards. These seem to be the best magnums based on non-magnum cases (however that saying goes ).

I chose the 300 Win Mag for 400, 500, & 600 yards but I also hunt elk and mule deer. My alternate choice would be a 338 Win Mag. I just can't get excited about an 06 myself, but certainly respect anyone who chooses to use one and can't fault them for it.
Mt deer rifle of choice is normally a .25-06. It shoots flat as can be with minimal recoil. It's ideal to 400 yards but beyond that the bullets have lost a lot of energy. If planning 500+ yard shooting I would likely grab a .270 WSM or 7mm Rem mag but I have that option with both sitting in the safe. Would I shoot a deer at 500 yards with my .25-06, yes, under the right conditions.
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