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Old 07-13-2011, 03:46 PM
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caliber conundrum 7mm. v. 30cal.

im looking to build an elk gun, for humane (obviously) shots out to like 700yds. weight of the gun, and finding ammo are not a big deal, but im torn between the 7mm. Rem. Mag. or the 300 winmag? thoughts? im just worried about retained energy.
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Old 07-13-2011, 04:01 PM
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I prefer the superior BC of the 7mm for long range.
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Re: caliber conundrum 7mm. v. 30cal.

After overthinking everything and then figuring out I didn't know as much as thought I have come to these conclusion. In 130-140 gr bullets stick to 6.5 and 277 cal., 150-180 are best for 7mm, 180-210 gr for 308 and everything from there (210+) 338. The other thing I have learned is for elk out to 600 +/- a 130-168 bullet "will work", for elk out to 800 +/- the 180-210 "will work" and anything farther the 225-300 gr should be the choice with the bigger 338 (edge, lap, ultramag) elk out to 1300. So buy using this logic you want elk out to 700 yards you want "at least" a 180-210 gr bullet which means a 30 cal bullet and obviously a 338 being more capable. These are just my conclusions that I have come to after spending way too much time thinking about caliber choices and these guidelines are really helping me make the decisions easier. So a 7 "will work" but you are pushing the boundries with it.

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Old 07-13-2011, 04:06 PM
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Re: caliber conundrum 7mm. v. 30cal.

thats what i was thinking. because iwas thinking about match bullets at first (not to hunt with just in concept) and the most popular match bullet ever id say the 168 smk 30cal, with the same weight and construction in one cal lower will yield a higher bc. so i was thinking that as long as i have a good cartridge like the 7mag, i figd the 7 would be the better choice.

some body correct me if im off. also, i would like counter arguments just for good consideration. thanx to all
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Old 07-13-2011, 04:32 PM
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Re: caliber conundrum 7mm. v. 30cal.

ok, well, that all taken in to consideration, what would anyone suggest as their ideal cartridge that is preferably sub 30 cal, and if a 30, not the 300 winmag, or wsm equiv. thats really the root of what im looking for. the 7mag seemed a good choice with the correct hand loads. i was thinking of the sierra 175 game king. bc of 538 ish. these will represent probably the greatest hunting demands i will put on any cartridge.

all suggestions eagerly welcomed!
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Re: caliber conundrum 7mm. v. 30cal.

I have a 7 mag and it's not like I'm not happy with it but it just sort of falls in the middle of what I want to do with it. I also have a 300 wsm in the tikka T3 lite. The tikka with 168 + gr bullets has some recoil to it. So I picked up the 7 in a rem 700 and an hs stock thinking it's better because I can use lighter bullets to get better results but once you go to the 150 and lighter bullets you aren't doing that much better than the 270 win. And at 168-180 gr bullets the recoil isn't any different than a 300 wsm/win mag. So I have decided to rechamber my rem 700 rem mag to a 338 edge for long range shooting and loads the tikka with 150 gr bullets until I rebarrel and then get that in a 6.5 or 270wsm (maybe a 6.5 stw) and will be a nice light gun that's not bad to shoot and capable out 600 or so and everything else gets the 338 whether it needs it or not.

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