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Old 07-09-2006, 07:02 PM
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Re: Bullet Worthy of a Once-in-a -Lifetime Trophy?

Whoa, if you new me better you would never call me wise!!! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Having confidence in your load and your gun is more important than anything else IMOP. When you know a bullet is gonna land where you tell it the feeling when you grab ahold of that rifle is one of pure confidence and I really feel that is key. I dont see a need to classify any particular bullet type as ineffective for hunting. My buddy Bill once said that SMK's should never be used for hunting after he saw some 168gr SMK's punch .308 diameter holes in water jugs at 300 yds with now expansion. He was damn near burned alive by some people on the board and some other praised him almost like he was preaching from the pulpit. he later shot a buck with the 240gr SMK from his 300rum and the damage from a near full body length pass through was horrifying, big damn hole!!!!

All in all it doesnt matter, use what you feel good with and know where to take advantage of a bullets flaws and weaknesses. I like the polymer tipped bullets with bonded cores but I know a lot of guys who do great with the SMK's and like bullets.

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Old 07-09-2006, 07:51 PM
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Re: Bullet Worthy of a Once-in-a -Lifetime Trophy?

Fishry, the gamekings suck and Hornady doesn't shoot well in all guns.

Matchkings work on game, no doubt about it. But, that is not the issue here. The issue here is that the 190 MK & the 308 are not an effective combo for what you want or may need.

Try the Accubonds, you may be pleasantly surprised.

If I was shooting a potential trophy of a lifetime I would probably shoot something else other than a 308 to 1000. You said 600-800, I see no reason why you couldn't get within 600 yards in the Wyoming country.
Inside 600 with a 165+ Accubond or other premium bullet and you should have no problems. The 180 should get you to 1000, but you may lack the energy you need with 308 velocity.

Accubonds are a fantastic bullet in any caliber, they shoot well is most guns, they are not finicky, and they perform well at max loads. The Hornadys seem to perform best when you back off the loads a bit.

I do not have a problem with MK's for hunting, but If I do not have to, then why? Remember we are not talking about the big Mk's in mag calibers here, we are talking about a 308.
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[Quote] by Lerch
My buddy Bill once said thatSMK's should never be used for hunting after he saw some 168gr SMK's punch .308 diameter holes in water jugs at 300 yds with now expansion.

What's Now expansion??????????????????? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
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Re: Bullet Worthy of a Once-in-a -Lifetime Trophy?

fishry,
Maybe I can help you out. Hey, try 42.5 grains of 4064 with the same setup you have. You'll gain over 100 fps with this load. You might feel a little crunch but not to worry, this is a safe load. It is exactly what I use. Also, note that if you hit it in the boiler room, it will die!
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Old 07-09-2006, 08:24 PM
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Re: Bullet Worthy of a Once-in-a -Lifetime Trophy?

"Hornadys dont shoot good in all guns."

I have seen and heard this from a few different people and you really never hear about people using the SST or InterBond for long range hunting. It really sucks because they use a VLD nose profile and I really like them but you cant argue with results, I wish I knew what the problem was. I really wish I would hear better results with them.

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Old 07-09-2006, 08:32 PM
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The expansion was pretty impressive to say the least. The deer was severly quartering to us and the bullet entered the front shoulder and exited on the offside hip at 503yds. the exit wound was around 9" in diameter!!! I will post the pic later.

I was impressed with the fact that the bullet held its core. Previous experince had shown otherwise. I guess that shows you that it is really hard to predict what a bullet will do on impact.

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Old 07-09-2006, 08:41 PM
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Re: Bullet Worthy of a Once-in-a -Lifetime Trophy?

from the deer I'm shot with the SMK's all i 175gr all out of a 308 running close to 2700fps MV. All bullets expanded and all bullets exited now the biggest deer shot was a big old cow horn around 200lbs on the hoof but the average is our 60-100lb coastal does' we get to shoot alot of them during the off season for "game management" 95% of the shots are at deer that have seen us and are about to leave so a fast lung shot is usualy used and even when hitting the thin ribs the 175 expand.
The doe I shot at 618yds was broad side feeding the bullet slipped in behind the shoulder hit a rib on the way in and broke two on the way out quarter sized exit but a good softball sized wound channel , she ran about 30-40yds both lungs were realy damaged.

if the buck of a lifetime stepped out at 1000yds I would not hesitate to take the shot , assuming I lazered the range and had a good idea on the wind direction and it was under 15mph.
If you uniform the meplat just a bit it will make for a slightly wider impack area helping to ensure expansion. what I have seen when I true up the tips is that they actualy shoot higher at 400yds , I haven't shoot groups at anything over that to see how bad it drops their BC but I can't see it being enough to worry with so long as you know what it is

So have you tried the 178gr A-max bullets?
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