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Old 12-08-2009, 09:26 AM
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Re: Bullet choices for 300 RUM

Mark, can you post the length of one of the 180 E-Tips? Just the bullet.
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Nosler - Bullets, Ammunition, Rifles, Brass, and Reloading Data.

This will give you what you are looking for.

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Oh goodness. This all based upon Gerard's advertised BC of that bullet? You're going to get 400 yards more "effective range" with it than you will a 210 Berger? Good luck with that.

Montana, I luv ya man, but the phrase "hook, line and sinker" comes to mind. When you actually try the things at 1500, let us know how far off the drop charts were.
Jon, I feel da luv man My niave optimism is based on Steve's testing

GS bullet antelope hunting.

GS bullet range report

Drops matched advertised bc's

It looks like Gerard has tweeked the bullets a little. There's a good pic of the old vs new.

Did you ever test any of Noel's bullets?

Edit: The 210 Berger with an MV of 3150 @ 5000' elevation gets to about 1140 yds with 1800 fps vel - the GS 177 gets to about 1560 yds with 1600 fps V, which is it's expansion velocity. At 1500 yds it's velocity is 1660 fps with a KE of 1080 and an momentum of 42. It beats the Berger in in wind drift by about 12% through out.

3500 should be easy to get with the GS 177 in the RUM with H1000 and possibly 3550. With RL 17, I think I can get close to 3600, mabe a touch more.

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Jon, I feel da luv man My niave optimism is based on Steve's testing

GS bullet antelope hunting.

GS bullet range report

Drops matched advertised bc's

It looks like Gerard has tweeked the bullets a little. There's a good pic of the old vs new.

Did you ever test any of Noel's bullets?

Mark,

It's good to know that I am the source or your naive optimism. Want some candy little boy.

When weather gets more conducive to shooting I will try to run them out farther. I don't know that I have the equipment to get a whole lot farther. I ran the E-tips last year, and they did great out to 1000yrds, but when out shooting rocks I could not for the life of me hit anything at 1200yrds. I chalked it up to: Loads not good enough, rifle not good enough, shooting ability not good enough. I will try it again with the GS bullets but I am not sure if it will be any better.

Out to 500yrds is one thing, to a thousand is another, out to 1500 is really tough, and beyond that is exceptional.

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Out to 500yrds is one thing, to a thousand is another, out to 1500 is really tough, and beyond that is exceptional.

Steve
Steve, I totally agree with you on this fact and that's why I couched the 1500 yd range as "potential"

While we are chatting about the GS bullets, how do you find them for fouling a barrel? Better, worse, the same? Is the moly easy to clean?
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Without having a bore scope, I think my barrel cleans the same. I let it go too long this fall and accuracy fell off. Cleaned and all is well. I had let it go because I don't like to head out on a hunting trip with a spotless barrel, and everything was running perfect. Then accuracy fell off just before the trip. I got lazy.

Steve

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I have never understood the moly debate. Is there some special cleaning that needs to be done when using moly coated bullets?
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I have zero experience with moly bullets. I have a friend shooting them and he claims he gets 100 fps better velocity out of his 270 WSM. He does the moly coating himself. It seemed to be a craze for a while but I see very few shooters using moly bullets and manufacturers are making less of them.

Lilja has a good article on it. He addresses the issues of fouling and barrel life, but not velocity.

Lilja Precision Rifle Barrels - FAQ

It doesn't sound like moly helps barrel life and if you stay on top of cleaning it doesn't hurt it either. Is another 100 fps worth the cost and effort of coating your bullets? I might experiment with the 180 E-Tips someday, but if I end up shooting the GS HV's there will be no point. The GS moly is a whole different animal. It's not supposed to foul like other molys and supposed to clean up with just regular cleaning. So i was just wondering what your experience was.
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