Im A barnes bullet guy only, as I see so many folks come to me , as I am one of the reloading specialist, at Cabelas in WA, and from my own experience with them,, I dont like to eat lead anymore, they retain virtually 100 percent of their weight.... accuracy is extremely good. I did clean my barrels with JB bore polish, and it is a product I highly recommend, for anyone who is looking for the most accuracy from their gun.... if you use them and have accuracy issues, need to look at the JB bore cleaner and polish, it will make a world of differenced... walrus58