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Building a custom out of a WEATHERBY MARK V

 
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Old 05-04-2012, 12:04 PM
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Building a custom out of a WEATHERBY MARK V

I need some advice on building a custom rifle. A friend of mine has a couple of custom's built for long range. He used Krieger Barrels, Stiller actions, H S Precision stocks, Jewell Triggers and a few other extras. One is in a 65x47 and the other is 7mm mag. Then he added Nightforce scope with custom turrets built for the exact load each shoots.

I have a range out to a 1000 yards and he wanted me to try them out. He had a range finder with his load data built in. We set up 20" steel @ 500, 700, and 1000. He told me to pick a range so I said 700. He ranged it gave me the clicks to use. I shot out of a cold gun I had never seen before all in less than 20 seconds and hit 3 " from Bulls eye first try. Then I shot about 10 more and had about a 3.5" group. I was impressed. He said now try 500 gave me the clicks same results. He could give me the setting at any range from 100 to 700 and it was dead on with both guns. I was impressed,

Then he told me the price was to the tune of about $4000.00 each gun material and Labor and then $2500 for each scope plus $1600 for the range finder.
My question is it necessary to spend that much? I have a couple of nice Weatherby Mark 5S that I am in to them for the right amount. Rather than buy all that Why can’t I build on the Weatherby’s I have? Just have them tuned and re barreled. His smith says just sell them and buy all the above mentioned parts and Build one from scratch. But I think the stiller action alone is as almost as much as one Weaterby will bring. Does anyone have any experience with Weatherby customizing? I would love to have a couple guns like his but not for $13,0 00.00 to 15,000.00. I would appreciate any thoughts or advice anyone has.
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Old 05-04-2012, 12:18 PM
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Re: Building a custom out of a WEATHERBY MARK V

It seems he is doing it right and enjoying the success that comes with good equipment.

Sure there are cheaper routes to get there but this reminds me of the old saying when we were racing.

" Speed costs money, how fast do you want to go?"

I say do it right the first time and only cry once.

Now that said I did build my 338 LM off a Mark V stainless action. I have over $4000 in that rifle alone. Then a $150 rail base, $150 for rings, $150 for a ring mounted level and $100 for the angle indicator. Now add the $1800 for the zero stop NihtForce scope and that is where I ended up. The good news is the rifle shoots 1/2 moa still after 1500 rounds.

If I were to give you the best advice I can it would be the same as his smith gave you. Reason is by the time you do any machining on te Mark V to true it up, and figure what you can get for your rifles hole, you will loose money over what you can buy a custom action for.

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Old 05-04-2012, 07:32 PM
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Re: Building a custom out of a WEATHERBY MARK V

You can get a Defiance, Stiller or Borden action for $1000 more or less. Thats the difference here, along with a trigger, about $200+ for a Jewel for example. A good deal on a full custom rifle is about $3200 to $3500.

If you use the Weatherby action, a McMillan stock of your choice and a custom barrel of your choice, along with the labor and skill of the builder, will set you back about $1200-$1400, depending on who builds it. This is just an estimate...

One can debate all night long on which build will shoot better, you never know. I have Defiance, Borden and Weatherby builds and like all of them. All actions have pros and cons. Get what you like and good luck!
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Old 05-04-2012, 07:49 PM
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Re: Building a custom out of a WEATHERBY MARK V

I forgot about the optics...I have never been able to afford a $3000 scope (or a $2000 scope for that matter) but in my experience $1300 or less buys a lot of scope.

I have Leupold M4, IOR Valdada, Bushnell Elite, Nikon tactical and Viper Vortex PST and for non millitary or law enforcement use I can't imagine needing better quality glass.

As for the rangefinder, a $600 Leica will do the trick for the ranges you will probably be shooting.
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Old 05-04-2012, 07:52 PM
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Re: Building a custom out of a WEATHERBY MARK V

I have a Mark V that I customized over the last couple years and it is a great shooter. It is my everyday hunting rifle.

Mark V action. with the stock fluted 26" barrel.
McMillan stock , I free floated and glass bedded the action $450 stock,$25 for bedding kit
Timney trigger set to 2lbs $125
Near 10moa alphamounts $325
Swarovski Z5 3.5-18 x 44 w/ ballistic turret $1500

Weighs in @ 8lbs scoped.

total cost of upgrades $2425

It's shooting 180TSX @ 3150 ft/sec. .3moa 5 shot groups at 100m. Off the bench it shoot about a .5moa 3 shot group at 800m

I have the ballistic turret set up for 100m-800m (don't have access to a range that is further)

I have done all the work myself. All pretty easy bolt on stuff. I have owned the rifle for 12 years now but only started to modify it this last two years.

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Re: Building a custom out of a WEATHERBY MARK V

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I need some advice on building a custom rifle. A friend of mine has a couple of custom's built for long range. He used Krieger Barrels, Stiller actions, H S Precision stocks, Jewell Triggers and a few other extras. One is in a 65x47 and the other is 7mm mag. Then he added Nightforce scope with custom turrets built for the exact load each shoots.

I have a range out to a 1000 yards and he wanted me to try them out. He had a range finder with his load data built in. We set up 20" steel @ 500, 700, and 1000. He told me to pick a range so I said 700. He ranged it gave me the clicks to use. I shot out of a cold gun I had never seen before all in less than 20 seconds and hit 3 " from Bulls eye first try. Then I shot about 10 more and had about a 3.5" group. I was impressed. He said now try 500 gave me the clicks same results. He could give me the setting at any range from 100 to 700 and it was dead on with both guns. I was impressed,

Then he told me the price was to the tune of about $4000.00 each gun material and Labor and then $2500 for each scope plus $1600 for the range finder.
My question is it necessary to spend that much? I have a couple of nice Weatherby Mark 5S that I am in to them for the right amount. Rather than buy all that Why can’t I build on the Weatherby’s I have? Just have them tuned and re barreled. His smith says just sell them and buy all the above mentioned parts and Build one from scratch. But I think the stiller action alone is as almost as much as one Weaterby will bring. Does anyone have any experience with Weatherby customizing? I would love to have a couple guns like his but not for $13,0 00.00 to 15,000.00. I would appreciate any thoughts or advice anyone has.
I have built many long range rifles on the Mark 5 action and they have all shot extremely well.

I will say that they are best suited for the big cases (378, Lapua Etc with large bolt faces) so if you are looking to build something with a magnum or standard bolt face a smaller action would be fine.

But if you already have several Mark 5s and want to build of them, as long as the bolt face is not
larger than the cartridge you want to build. I would say Have at it.

Remember the action is there to hold the round accuratly in the chamber and almost any action
(custom or Factory)will do that if it is properly sized and smithed.

Just my opinion

J E CUSTOM
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Re: Building a custom out of a WEATHERBY MARK V

Good opinion. Nothing wrong with the Mark V.
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