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Building a 500 yards muzzleloader?

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Unread 01-20-2004, 09:51 AM
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Re: Building a 500 yards muzzleloader?

Does anyone know the BC for the 200, 250, and 300g SST/Shockwave bullets?
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Unread 01-20-2004, 10:19 AM
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Re: Building a 500 yards muzzleloader?

Think you find that most muzzleloaders are in the relatively light weight range 7 lbs. 150 gr of 777/Pyrodex is a stout load with a 250 shockwave. The 300 is even worse but has knockdown for large game such as elk.

Could make an arguement that the 200 is on the light side and low BS. Tried it and did not like it compared to the 250 in MY gun. The 250 has a BC of around .200 if I remember right.

I shot the 26" encore 209x50 with 100 gr 777 and it shot 1" with MV of almost 1800 pfs. 150 gr of 777 left it at MV of 2200 and groups of around 2.2". Took 3 deer out to 170 yards this year with it, all one shots each.

Do not have my figures in front of me, but I remember it was zero at 100 and about 14" low at 200 and 36-45" at 300 with 250 shockwave and 100 gr 777. Ran the figures for 150gr and it was not worth the larger groups, higher ES and recoil in my opinion.

Got a good friend that tried the Savage smokeless and he is averaging the same as me. So not sure what advantage you have when compared to 777 and not being able to use smokeless muzzleloaders everywhere.

Now if someone is building one of a kind ULR muzzleloaders that weight 15 + lbs and knows enough to make it smokeless (safely and you want to take the risk) then all bets are off.

Rangefinders are absolute must over 150 yards.

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Unread 01-20-2004, 10:44 AM
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Re: Building a 500 yards muzzleloader?

BountyHunter, I had similer results compairing 100 and 150g charges of 777. If you used powder you could bring up a charge by 5g at a time and mabe find a faster load that was accurate. I like the pellets and 100g seems to be quite accurate in my gun.

Found some BC's. 250g-.210 BC, 300g-.250 BC. Couldn't find anything for the 200g. If anyone has it please post. Thanks

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Unread 01-20-2004, 11:19 AM
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Re: Building a 500 yards muzzleloader?

Another long range in-line is Knight's new .52 caliber Disc rifle. Shoots a very nice looking Barnes bullet, about 375 grains and it carries out very well. Have to use loose powder with that rifle, no pellets since it has an extended tube in the front of the breachplug thru which the fire shoots. Ignition takes place near the base of the sabot. Designed for 150 gr. of 777 powder.
I hunted with this rifle, took a nice antelope at 230 yards in Wyoming this fall. Had drops to 300 and it is quite flat, cannot recall exact numbers as we only hunted a couple of days. I have another rifle right now but too cold to shoot the sucker. This Barnes bullet probably has the best BC of any muzzleloader bullet I have seen.

Long shots are challenging, but they don't get you rev'd up like getting inside 25 or 50 yards to a good buck.
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Unread 02-04-2004, 12:04 AM
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Re: Building a 500 yards muzzleloader?

check out precision bullets dead center in .45 and 195 grain bc. of .375 cecil epps knows his stuff and would be the guy to get you to reach out
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Unread 03-17-2004, 11:57 PM
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Re: Building a 500 yards muzzleloader?

Here's a flat shooting muzzleloader!!!
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Unread 03-19-2004, 01:09 AM
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Re: Building a 500 yards muzzleloader?

There is an old, out of print book by A.O.Neidner, called "The Muzzleloading Rifle", if I recall correctly. It is a very detailed book on the most accurate target and long range - 1K - rifles of the 19th century, right down to false muzzles and paper patched bullets. I haven't seen a copy of it since I was in highschool. If, by chance, you should look for it and find a source, I would like to buy one myself. I tried Amazon with no luck so far.
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