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Old 08-09-2013, 03:54 PM
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Re: Bore cleaning

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I tried KG 1 & 12. When KG12 showed clean patches, BTE got out a good bit more copper.
I've seen a number of reviews of bore cleaner over the past few months. I haven't kept count, but there's at least 3 combinations I've seen, where the first bore cleaner removes a lot, but the second one always removed more. It makes me wonder if the process was reversed, would the last one still remove more copper. Has anyone tried this to see what would happen?
I'd try it, but I'm a tightwad. Some of you probably already have 6-8 of these cleaners & they'd be able to conduct this experiment.
I know I don't want to use Sweets or any other cleaner with ammonia for one simple reason. With a severe A.D.D. problem, I get distracted very easily, & do not want to ruin a bore on a new rifle because I let it sit for several hours or more with a ammoniated cleaner in the bore.
Presently, I'm using Wipe-Out along with the Accelerator, after I've run a brush through the bore with Hoppe's in & out twice and enough patches alternating between wet & dry until the patches come out nearly spotless . I always allow it to sit at least 12 hours plus, with the barrel slightly tilted down. I always get a very deep blue which runs out of the bore after I remove a gas check as a plug. It seems to do an excellent job, but I'm always open to someone else's experiences. I'm never in a hurry though. I can always load ammo for my next session
I also recently bought "Losso Nylex" bore brushes which should help a little more to eliminate wear.
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Old 08-09-2013, 04:06 PM
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Re: Bore cleaning

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I've seen a number of reviews of bore cleaner over the past few months. I haven't kept count, but there's at least 3 combinations I've seen, where the first bore cleaner removes a lot, but the second one always removed more. It makes me wonder if the process was reversed, would the last one still remove more copper. Has anyone tried this to see what would happen?
I'd try it, but I'm a tightwad. Some of you probably already have 6-8 of these cleaners & they'd be able to conduct this experiment.
I know I don't want to use Sweets or any other cleaner with ammonia for one simple reason. With a severe A.D.D. problem, I get distracted very easily, & do not want to ruin a bore on a new rifle because I let it sit for several hours or more with a ammoniated cleaner in the bore.
Presently, I'm using Wipe-Out along with the Accelerator, after I've run a brush through the bore with Hoppe's in & out twice and enough patches alternating between wet & dry until the patches come out nearly spotless . I always allow it to sit at least 12 hours plus, with the barrel slightly tilted down. I always get a very deep blue which runs out of the bore after I remove a gas check as a plug. It seems to do an excellent job, but I'm always open to someone else's experiences. I'm never in a hurry though. I can always load ammo for my next session
I also recently bought "Losso Nylex" bore brushes which should help a little more to eliminate wear.
Yup, tried it both ways. BTE got it out when KG left some behind and BTE doesn't leave it any behind if you do it thoroughly. A bore scope has proved that.

Wipeout is good to. It just takes longer, but then there's less patches and scrubbing. If I'm not in a hurry, Wipeout is a good way to go.
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Old 08-09-2013, 06:58 PM
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Yup, tried it both ways. BTE got it out when KG left some behind and BTE doesn't leave it any behind if you do it thoroughly. A bore scope has proved that.

Wipeout is good to. It just takes longer, but then there's less patches and scrubbing. If I'm not in a hurry, Wipeout is a good way to go.
I clean pretty thoroughly, generally about 16-18 patches worth & brushing at 2 separate times. I always figger after brushing the first time & allowing it to sit overnight, maybe brushing again the next day would be a good idea with a Losso brush, just to insure I get everything I can in the corners of the grooves. Perhaps KG-12 would be better for cleaning at the range instead of Hoppe's. KG-1 may also do better for carbon at the range. This cleaning thing, is a ritual I never used to do 40 years ago, but I was just a kid then.

Thanks for the response, I appreciate it.

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Old 06-21-2015, 03:24 PM
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Dewey rods, Wipeout with accelarator with Sinclair boreguides. I do use Boreshine, Cr-10 and Hoppes occasionally. Also Kroil. I talked with the owner of Wipeout and they are coming out with a new Wipeout with carbon killer. He said the test results are looking promising. I ordered 3 cans but have not seen them . That was 8 months ago.
What are you guys using to get the carbon out?
I've been using BoreTec C4 for carbon. It seems adequate, but slightly labor intensive. After using WipeOut I've been spoiled. I only started using BoreTech to insure I was completely getting all of the carbon out. Always used it before using WipeOut & almost always applied WipeOut late in the evening & removed it the next morning.

I don't care for the smell of C4 & it seems to leave a residue on my fingers that needs to be scrubbed a couple of times to remove the residue. I ain't a puss I just sound like one.:-)
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Old 06-22-2015, 10:29 PM
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Re: Bore cleaning

I like bore tech eliminator a lot, and recently have been using kg 2 and 12 which also work very well. I always clean up with some kroil and leave a light film of it in the bore. Kroil is a very useful product when working with firearms. I use it for everything but my breakfast cereal........Rich
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Old 06-23-2015, 10:57 AM
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Re: Bore cleaning

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I like bore tech eliminator a lot, and recently have been using kg 2 and 12 which also work very well. I always clean up with some kroil and leave a light film of it in the bore. Kroil is a very useful product when working with firearms. I use it for everything but my breakfast cereal........Rich
I never tried the Kroil with my cereal yet. But, I do like the Hoppes #9 in my Cheerios. That banana odor makes it so sweet !!
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Old 06-23-2015, 11:40 AM
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Re: Bore cleaning

I favor Wipeout and Montana Extreme Copper killer.

Based on my experiences prairie dog shooting we are all over cleaning. This last trip I only cleaned my 223 (Rem factory barrel), 204 (Hart barrel) and my son's 223 (CZ factory barrel) about every 60 rounds. Cleaning was typically 4-8 patches with Copper Killer followed by a dry patch. Typically the first couple of patches only removes carbon judging by how black they were. I haven't used any kind of brush on my center fire rifles shooting jacketed bullets in years.

After getting home I left Copper Killer in them over night and followed with a couple dry patches in the morning. Even though the CZ went through about 750 rounds my borescope showed the barrel to be clean as were the others.
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