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Is a Boat Tail worth its Salt?

 
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Old 10-30-2008, 11:02 PM
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Re: Is a Boat Tail worth its Salt?

There is a pretty good contingent of LR shooters shooting the Knight and BIB flat base bullets for 1000. I shoot the BIB 187 FB bullet in a 300 WSM with 12 twist. Lot of guys are using the 300 Ack Imp and 12, 13 or even 14 twists with the 187 BIB and up around 3300 fps.

The major reason is that it is much easier for the custom bullet maker to make a very good FB bullet compared to the BT. We take the normal BT sort by weight, ogive and then some run them over a Juenke machine to sort further.

BIBs, I take them out of the box and shoot, they are that much better quality wise.

Now we give up a good bit of BC, but in a known distance game that is not an issue and quality bullets mean more.

The BIBs use a pressure ring on the base and that must be in the neck. That means the chamber must have an extra long throat and 210s will not even come close to touching in my chamber and it makes it a one bullet gun.

Bottom line is that for LR hunting, you will want the BT normally due to the extra BC.

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Old 10-30-2008, 11:41 PM
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Re: Is a Boat Tail worth its Salt?

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Which 170 bullet is no longer available?
Wildcats..........

JamesJones,

Bullets are for harvesting out of a 270 AM.

The bullets are expensive, but at $2.00 each it isn't out of line at all if they shoot well, have a sufficient BC for 1200 and are only shot at elk and moose.

The 150 Nosler Ballistic Tips shoot better at distance compared to the 140 NABs each with the same bc which is much lower than any decently designed 170 class 277 bullet.

The wildcat 169.5s are right at 0.74 out of my barrel at 3300 and at 4480' elevation.

If a flat base bullet of similar design is even a 0.6 bc and velocity is not limited by the bearing surface, it should be a go. Wouldn't ya think?

The 150 Bergers are very unstable above 3200 out of my rifle thus they aren't among those selected.....

Maybe if Kirby gets that new fangled throat design finalized then I may be able to go back to the 195 wildcat which I have some of......
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Old 11-05-2008, 09:32 PM
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Re: Is a Boat Tail worth its Salt?

I shoot the 95gr BIB FB out of my 6Br and they are awesome shooters. The best bullet I have shot out to 600yds in my rifle. Randy makes very consistent bullets.
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Old 11-06-2008, 10:13 AM
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Re: Is a Boat Tail worth its Salt?

Roy,

So is Wildcat bullets no more or just the 169.5's?
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Old 11-06-2008, 11:55 AM
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Re: Is a Boat Tail worth its Salt?

Roy, $2.00 a whack seems plenty steep for me. I don't care how good they are. In my eyes there is a fine line between cost and performance.
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Old 11-06-2008, 07:06 PM
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Re: Is a Boat Tail worth its Salt?

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Roy,

So is Wildcat bullets no more or just the 169.5's?
As far as I can gather the whole thing is kaput.......

I've been reduced to shooting 140 NABs........ which pretty much makes the AM to big for little work and too little for big work.

Word from Eric @ Berger says that work on a heavy 277 has commenced and is about a year behind the 338 soon to be offering.
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Re: Is a Boat Tail worth its Salt?

In a word, yes.

I've even switched over to boat tails in short range benchrest. They load easier, they do have higher bc's, and if they shoot just as accurate, why not?
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