Originally Posted by jwp475
400 yards is not up close and personal now is it. The close shot which is more likely than not the one that's avaiable when hunting Grizz and the up close shot is when the J-4 jacketed Bergers may not penetrate as far as needed..
Not all shots were taken from 400 yards, most were taken way closer than that. A bullet doesn't need to exit, it needs to do enough damage to take the animal down quickly. A hard bullet gets more penetration but does less damage in the process. take some kind of shooting gel and shoot a berger, swift, accubond, grand slam all at the same speed. inbed bone if you like i did with still the same conclusion. The swift II went all the way through but little damage, accubond and grand slam did more damage than the swift but didnt do as much damage as the berger. I shot the gel block from 20 yards at 3009fps muzzle velocity. I used pig bone. I didn't test any farther shots because best of the west already did that. It was a pain in the butt to do all that testing so i ask you to do it for yourself and draw your own conclusions. berger, barns, accubond, partition, swift, grand slam are all good bullets just pick the one you have most confidense in and use it, if someone else doesn't like it who cares. I wouldn't be afraid to shoot anything with any of those bullets after i tested them.