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Berger Hybrid Expansion Test @ 1180 yds

 
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Old 06-28-2010, 09:04 AM
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Re: Berger Hybrid Expansion Test @ 1180 yds

I wonder how water would do?

I think that Roy's pipe with the rubber in front would almost seal itself. Take a tube of silicone caulking to squirt into each hole and add a bit more water after each shot. How far it would penetrate would determine how long the pipe needed to be.

If it didn't blow apart then it should last almost forever.

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Old 06-28-2010, 09:33 AM
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Re: Berger Hybrid Expansion Test @ 1180 yds

Thanks Edge, I thought about water but was trying to produce something to simulate the consistancy of an amimal... well close anyway. If I do another I may use a piece of plastic culvert or a 30 gallon plastic barrel. I will need to haul the filler seperate next time though. I about blew a gasket when I lifted that box out of the back of the truck. I sware it weighed almost as much as elk...

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Re: Berger Hybrid Expansion Test @ 1180 yds

Water is a pain. Too liquid. Even though water is compressible (noticeable up around 2500 PSI) for our purposes it isn't. Constrain it too much and things explode.

Water in a media with a decent water holding capacity is really good. I have access to some specialty peat moss that has been treated for a special purpose. It does well when mixed with water.

I'm going to grab a bag of peat moss next trip to home depot and compare it to the stuff that I'm using.

I'm on the second summer with the same stuff I used last year. However at some point it's going to be come a lead hazard.

At this point the complete fixture ready to shoot is at about 90 pounds. Another 10 or so of water can be added if necessary.

The belting on the front works really well but has to be attached properly and I don't yet know what properly is.
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Re: Berger Hybrid Expansion Test @ 1180 yds

Very cool. I love independant testing of any kind. Plywood, dirt, water, whatever, I like to see real results from real people. Thanks Broz. Between Bigngreen, You, and Roy, are realy getting me in the frame of mind to try some of these Berger bullets. Maybe in my 338wm (probably not 300gr tho) Does Berger make a 225 or 250gr 338 bullet?


P.S. nice shootin. I wish I could consistantly group like that at 800, let alone 1180 yds.
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Re: Berger Hybrid Expansion Test @ 1180 yds

This is how I made a bullet catcher with water. It's a 55 gal acid barrel, I have a little wood frame that I silicone and screw around the hole with a tractor inner tube in it, I can shoot it repeatedly to get a larger sample group. I can set phone books and ply wood in the top to simulate different stuff. The goodies precipitate out and I can easily see how the bullet reacted. Roy's peat moss is more than likely a better direct comparison but I want to be able to see exactly how the bullets come apart. It'll soak up 210 gr Bergers out of a 300 WBY on auto fire! I pack two more in the truck for hauling water.

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Re: Berger Hybrid Expansion Test @ 1180 yds

Just curious, does anyone know what the setup would look like that bullet manufacturers use to test and recover bullets. Is it something that's really really sophisticated/expensive or simple and cheap. If simple and cheap...why not duplicate it? Not knocking what you guys are doing...I think it's great. just curious.
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Old 06-29-2010, 07:15 AM
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Re: Berger Hybrid Expansion Test @ 1180 yds

Very similar to the picture above

The problem is the barrel is inclined so you don't know how far the bullet travels since it is at the bottom!

One problem with water is that it tends to peel jackets off more than game!
A boat tail bullet will almost always shed the jacket in water if you give it enough speed, actually most jacketed bullets will!

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