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Old 05-20-2012, 10:49 AM
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Re: Berger Hybrid bullets

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Thanks for all the questions! I will just reflect on my direct experience with the Hybrid designed bullets over the last three months of hunting so that I do not mis-state anything, or give fairy tell success stories.

I have been using the 338's for a while now like everyone else. I much preferred the gen 1 bullets to the gen 2, simply for the jacket thickness. Now this will soon be meaningless with the new hybrid hunting bullets on the way. So the question was, did I think the hybrids performed like the VLD's? At first I was skeptical that it was the design of a VLD that made it work so well. But after being able to fire a whole bunch of hybrids into animals, I now no longer have that opinion. It clearly is the alloy mixture that make Berger Bullets work every time. Plus obviously the ability to retain their velocity doesn't hurt!

For the hunts I have been on this year so far, a bear hunt, Barbary sheep, 3 stags, 2 fallow, Thar, Chamios, feral goat, arrapaw sheep, over 20 wallabies, and over 70 free range goats. The bullets of choice for these hunts/tests were all 30 cal stuff in the 185, to 230 grain offerings. We used our EOL/McMillan Rifles in 300. All the animals died on the first shot, except one fallow, and one stag that I hit to far back. They were dead on there feet, but I hurried and put a second one in them to make sure. Now to far back meaning hips, and rump, to far back. Everything that clipped the guts fell right down, and still died almost immediately. The rump shots were due to either I fouled up on the wind for a hurried shot, or did not read their body language correct at the shot and they turned in flight time.

For the 230 I am using so far it has been the target. Not that the jacket is any different then the OTM, just the nose design for a little higher B.C. Now one important thing I would like to mention, is that I noticed the 230 traveling 3000 fps out of my 26" bbl took away some of my concerns about the thicker jackets. I was apprehensive at first from working with the thicker jacketed 338 bullets traveling 2800 fps and slower. But now seeing how velocity was able to manipulate how the bullet performed in our tests, that has gone away. I feel the hybrid design is a solid winner for guys who want the VLD performance without the critical seating depth headache, and in the new hunting jackets, there are going to be off the charts incredible, I'm sure of it...
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Old 05-20-2012, 12:39 PM
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Re: Berger Hybrid bullets

so correct me if i am wrong but the hunting Hybrids will have thinner jackets? If so i will stick with target bullets for my 6-284 as i read the thinner jacketed hunting VLDs wont take the velocity
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Old 05-20-2012, 12:47 PM
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Re: Berger Hybrid bullets

Yes, the hunting hybrids will have a thinner jacket then the OTM, or Target bullets...

I am not sure how fast you are running those 6mm bullets? But I have ran the hunting VLD's in other calibers to 3600 fps with no issues at all. But I will clearly state that it was never through rapid succession or a hot bbl. Always just in hunting conditions with 3-5 shot strings.
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Old 05-20-2012, 02:21 PM
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Re: Berger Hybrid bullets

hoping to push them 3200-3400 range. id just read that the fast twist and those velocities unravel them. iv ran the 87gr VLD in my Dtesh 243wssm AR to 3500+ in a 10 twist just fine with superb accuracy
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Old 05-20-2012, 02:35 PM
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Re: Berger Hybrid bullets

I can only speak from my experiences. But it seems a bit crazy to me that at even 3400 fps any of those 6mm bullets would be coming apart. However if some guys on here have had that happen to them, It surely is possible. I am just thinking I would like to know a bit more information as to how it happened and how it was confirmed? But to be safe you could just give both the target, and hunting bullets a try.

Either way in the end, our experience with the hybrid designed bullets has been nothing but positive. The fact that Berger has addressed any concerns with bullet integrity by making them in two different jacket thickness, is a bonus!
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Re: Berger Hybrid bullets

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I can only speak from my experiences. But it seems a bit crazy to me that at even 3400 fps any of those 6mm bullets would be coming apart. However if some guys on here have had that happen to them, It surely is possible. I am just thinking I would like to know a bit more information as to how it happened and how it was confirmed? But to be safe you could just give both the target, and hunting bullets a try.

Either way in the end, our experience with the hybrid designed bullets has been nothing but positive. The fact that Berger has addressed any concerns with bullet integrity by making them in two different jacket thickness, is a bonus!
When are more hybrids coming out?
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Old 05-20-2012, 03:35 PM
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I am not completely sure when and how the hybrids will be hitting the shelves. But I can tell you from what I hear, and the conversations I am involved With, that in the upcoming months there will be more hybrids in different calibers coming down the pipe!

I will surely be posting results and updates on what I am able to get my hands on, and send down the bbl!!!
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