Berger Bullets vs TSX bullets

[Delta Hunter]

I've used the TSX to kill two whitetail deer. One hit the spine and blew through it. Deer dropped in it's tracks. The other went just behind the shoulders taking out the heart. No major bone was encountered. That deer ran 15 to 20 yards before hitting the turf. Internal damage was awesome. Two examples don't mean a whole lot, but I'm very happy with them so far. And BTW, they have shot very accurately in my rifles.

[budlight]

I like the Berger VLD's The price for their bullets is great. I also think that Barnes gets a bad rap on accuracy because of the bullet length VS twist rate. I look at it as apples and oranges. You have a hunting bullet and you have a highly accurate VLD. Use them for their intended use and don't worry that your hunting round groups open up.

If your shoot the .277 get the 140 tsx bt. I've never recoved one while hunting - even taking out the neck verts on a large Muleys. The only problem with them is: they need to produce heavier BT bullets in each of the calibers. Like 150 or above in .277 175 gr and above on .284 and 200+gr in 30 cal.

The wound channel is fantastic. Nothing in North America can take on my 405 Grain Barnes - X out of my 458 win mag.

http://www.barnesbullets.com/prodtsx.php

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.458 405 grain 99+% weight retention shot into soft dry fine sand at 200 yards. Chrono at 2480 fps with 26 inch barrel

.277 169.5 grain Wildcat VLD

.277 150 spbt with home moly coating

.277 169.5 grain Wildcat VLD

.277 140 grain Barnes into soft dry fine sand at 400 yards. chrono at a mild 3168 fps out of 270 AI 29 inch barrel. also a 99% retention weight.

[remingtonman_25_06]

The 2 coyotes I shot with my 300 RUM 210g vld would not like what they saw, if they could see the pics. Distances were 120 yards and 275 yards. Both exits left about 6-7" holes. Definately not a hide saver bullet. I want to try them on deer this year at a fairly long distance of 500-700 yards, if the deer cooperate this year. I think they'll work great for deer at longer ranges where velocity has slowed down some, otherwise we'll probly lose a couple pounds of bloodshot meat. But hey, some meats better then no meat, right [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[jwp475]

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Maybe they have fixed their problems but I have still heard MANY mixed review on them. I still like the poly tipped bullets or the wildcat line because they are bullets built by a hunter for other hunters.

I have also heard of a lot of people having eratic pressure issues with the Barnes line

good luck
steve

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I have shot a lot of the TXS as well as few of my friends and have seen no erratic pressure problems. The old stle X bullets I am sure experienced that problem. I have loaded the TXS along side of the AccuBond with the same powder charge for nearly the same velocity (about 20 fps difference). The only problem with the TXS's in some calibers is that hte bc could be higher, for this reason I am trying some of the Wildcat bullets and have high expectations for them. The 180 30 TXS's bc is not bad as I use .525 for it and that works for me out to as far as I have shot them.(1035 yards)

[dog caller]

Never used a Berger to hunt with. Probably never will. There is no reason for me to shoot at any big game animal on earth with anything but a Barnes. Two elk, seven muleys, two pronghorns and dozens upon dozens of coyotes and <u>maybe</u> they have taken a combined 10 steps after being hit. In my old Nosler loving days, I never got that kind of terminal performance! I switched to Barnes after Partitions and Ballistic Tip failures and have never had to look back! I've never been able to recover a bullet, bone or no bone, to see what it looks like. Barnes bullets (TSX's or regular X's) just plain HAMMER game. Only bad time I've ever had was developing a 140g X bullet load for my 270 WBY many years ago. Once I found the right combination though, game over. The TSX's have been very easy for me to devolop loads with. I currently shoot them in four different rifles and four different calibers and they will shoot 1/2 MOA in all of them. (I've never grouped them past 300 yards, maybe they get worse after that?) IMHO, Berger would have to be laser guided to out perform the TSX.

[HooterShooter]

There is no doubt about the terminal performance of barnes.
I haven't shot any since the blue bullets and they sucked. Worked great but sucked in accuracy. I'm about to try a 308 load tomorrow with 168 tsx and ramshot tac. This is my first time trying them since in 3 years. I'll give them 1 more chance....we'll see.

On another note fellas....
Comparing barnes to bergers is comparing a ferrari to a hummer!

[remingtonman_25_06]

HooterShooter-I was thinking the same thing, 2 totally different bullets. Talk about comparing apples to oranges here.