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Old 11-05-2013, 10:35 PM
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Then I think it could be my wife's turn.
Well I think it should be her turn!!!! Get a good one
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Well I think it should be her turn!!!! Get a good one
Then maybe my turn after her?... If I find one worth pulling the trigger on.

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Thanks, put a decent bull to bed tonight. Will be after him at first light. So maybe another tomorrow.

Then I think it could be my wife's turn.

jeff
3 bulls sounds like a lot of fun, but I am still tired from my 1. You must have good help though. Good job!
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Re: Berger 230 and 300 OTM Hybrid terminal results

As many on here would know, I have had horrible luck with the soft Berger bullet/jacket accuracy in my freebored rifles. I have had great luck with the harder bullets. I contribute this to several major factors that this OTM may overcome since the GEN1 bullet. I am concerned about everywhere in this thread that the bullet sometimes does not exit. Dead is dead so who really cares but exiting is to me somewhat of a concern. I would like to see my elk bleed out of 2 holes. Has anyone pushed the 338,300 gr OTM to 3100 and had it live in terminal performance and no bullet slump?
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Old 03-08-2014, 10:51 AM
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The bullet slump issue was only on Gen 1's and only when pushed very hard. I never seen it under 2900 fps. That condition was usually related to fast accelerating ball powders and twist rates faster than 1 in 10. Those days are long past. I have been pushing the OTM tactical target hybrid to 3200 and a little beyond for some time now. These are real velocities over an Oehler 35 and also a Magneto Speed at 4100' ASL. I have shot the OTM's at all distances out to 2971 yards where they held 1 moa while sub-sonic. I have repeatedly shot 2 and 3 shot groups into 1/2 moa at just over a mile into steel and paper targets. Took 5 bulls with that combo last year. Although one under 300 yards may not have exited we had a wound channel large enough to feed a 1" wide steel tape through and went 26" diagonally through the far shoulder. Tracking a bull with these kind of wounds are not an issue as we never lost sight of them. None left the area they were standing. Ironically enough one did make it barely outside 100 yards after shot. He bailed off the back of a steep ridge as the herd bolted after the impact. I was spotting for my wife and watched the hide ripple in the sweet spot of the crease. The sound of the impact coming back to me was easily heard even with ear plugs. The shot was 765 yards. Muzzle velocity average is 3198 fps. Here are pics of what we found including entrance and exit hole. I think he was dead while running a short distance. Have a look for yourself and see if this would suit your needs.

The bull ran head on down this steep hill hitting the tree to the right and bouncing off. We glued his skull back together after boiling it.



Entrance location and entrance was .338 dia.


Exit location when I rolled him over


Close up of exit showing 1 1/2" exit on far side with chunks of lungs sucked out .
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Re: Berger 230 and 300 OTM Hybrid terminal results

Nice shooting and wind calling! May i ask what the impact velocity was? Should be around 2450 fps right?
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Nice shooting and wind calling! May i ask what the impact velocity was? Should be around 2450 fps right?
Riley you are correct. It was a bit higher ALT. and I just ran a quick check to see and got 2480. Almost 4100 ft lbs of energy.

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